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Date: January 8, 2009 10:37 AM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

I hope htis man who has killed this young boy gets what he deserves which in my opinion is a very long prison sentence. come on we all know what young love is and as a father of 5 daughters i always thought i would end up in prison over some young boy sneaking around trying tosee one of my daughters not kill them just whip themreal good but i never did you just hope they make good choices but if not you still love them and stand behind themmy heart goes out to this young BOYs family and his young girl frend the man is a coward and needs to stay locked up i hope that justice will be served in this case cause if that was my son thats the most safe place for you you have a twisted mind jody boy


Date: January 8, 2009 1:22 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Sharon Hollar
Comment:

This is certainly a tragedy for all of the family memebers involved, the students who know these fellow students and for the entire community. These are the times when we all need to pray for all of the people involved, very heartful prayers to help heal and to help to try to understand , as it is not in our places to judge another person, but to pray for understanding and healing. We need also to pray for Sheriff Tim Carter and his deputies who will be investigating this tragedy, that God will lend them to answers. My prayers go out to everyone involved, and hope that the community will pray also for them and give respect to the families of everyone who is affected by this. I can't imagine for a minute how hurt they must all be feeling right now. My many many prayers go to everyone involved.

Sharon Hollar


Date: January 8, 2009 2:49 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Winona
Comment:

The most difficult question that we are asking is WHY???? This is so senseless! My prayers and love go out to all who have been effected by this tragedy!!


Date: January 8, 2009 2:56 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: tannerygirl
Comment:

I would like to take a minute to first of all say thank you to Sharon Hollar for giving her prayers to everyone in this tragedy. So many people out there I know are going to be totally against Jody but no one knows what happened behind closed doors in his home. Yes I agree he should have never taken this lil boys life he took someone's lil boy away from them never to be seen again until the day they meet on the other side of the gate. My thoughts and prayers also go out to everyone in the tragedy.I think Sarah the daughtershould have never brought him into the home knowing her father dislike the boy and had warned him not to be there especially after there was a trespassing notice in effect. Her father was very protective of his lil girl, I would also like to say I have heard so many father's say they would be seating on the porch with a shot gun when there daughter became of age so I know a father is protective of their babies and yes I know there are other ways to go about it but we never know what the motive behind this tragedy was and may never know.I think Jody acted to quickly and didn't stop and think about what he was doing and I truly think he is in deep sorrow after he did this. Alot of people around the area know Jody and this is not him. May god be with everyone thru this.


Date: January 8, 2009 4:02 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: still standing
Comment:

Tannery girl,
Are you saying that the daughter is to blame for her father's actions?


Date: January 8, 2009 4:11 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Joanna Wallace
Comment:

It is kind to offer prayers and also to remind us that we should not judge especially without knowing all the details but if we could also remember that children are going to be children. No behavior gives a man the right to take the life of a child. As mentioned earlier, this was s senseless crime, one that not only will destroy and punish Mr. Bradley but all the family and friends of the children involved.
Those involved are strangers to me no one is a stranger to loss. You will all be in my thoughts...


Date: January 8, 2009 6:20 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Cathy Lindamood
Comment:

Eight months ago, I lost my 15 year old son under differnent circumstances, but the same result. You have parents that have lost thier child.

As a community, our main concern is prayers for all those involved, but especially Brendon's friends and family. It will be a tough road ahead.

My prayers will not only be for Brendon's family, but also the Bradley family. I am not a judge. I am a person with feelings that realizes that other people have feelings too.

God Bless All Involved!


Date: January 8, 2009 9:56 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: jen2009
Comment:

My thoughts and prayers go out to the Barker family. It must be the hardest ever to lose your son like this. My prayers are also with Sarah Bradley. This poor child had to witness a horrible, horrible, tragedy and then her father blames her! Tells her it was all her fault and she ruined their lives. Jody, you deserve life in prison for taking the life of this innocent little boy.You are sick and twisted.
Jen Parker


Date: January 8, 2009 11:02 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: tannerygirl
Comment:

no i do not think the daughter is to blame for her fathers actions i just think she should of respected her father alil more knowing her father did not want him there and had already warned them. iam not at all saying that what jody did was right what iam saying that before everyone goes against him they should put into consideration that the girl was his only lil girl, although yes he should not have at all taken his life. there are other ways to go about things. like i said i think jody did not think before he acted in which caused a severe tragedy.


Date: January 9, 2009 11:10 AM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

its like this the man was wrong idont care if he went up in that attic and found those kids engaged in a compromising situation thats young love we all know what thats about i am thefather of 5 daughters and be lieve thats hard to deal with once they start seeing boys thinking boys and sneaking around even at home WHO OUT THERE NEVER DID SNEAK AROUND oh yeah some of you self rightous adults are doing that now .noquit acting like this murderer is the victim here i bet the coward will eventually take his own life because he cant face the fact that what he did is wrong and he want be able to accept a life in prison where he belongs the ones that need your prayers is the boys family and friends the girl that is a student said it right i know right from wrong and thats wrong and it is so quit feeling sorry for the coward he caused this not the kids but others have to suffer from his actions for a long time some the rest of their lives like i said i have 5 daughters i always thought i would go to jail just for roughing up someyoung boy ,but i never did you know why cause i was a young boy in love myself and i knew how that felted to sneak out and see her PRAY FOR THE VICTIMS HERE IM SURE THAT COWARD IS CRYING OUT TO GOD FOR HIS OWN SELFISH REASONS HE BETTER CAUSE MEN IN PRISONS MAKE EXAMPLES OUT OF KID KILLERS


Date: January 9, 2009 2:38 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: cmf11
Comment:

I attend Strasburg High,where Brendon also attended.This has been a huge tragedy for the school and the people around Strasburg.The family and friends of Brendon are in deep loss.For someone to say that Jody didn't think before he did that,thats wrong.He definitely did think and he did what he wanted to do.And what he did was the worst thing any man could do,to a 16 year old who had a life planned for himself.For Brendon to be able to come to the house for six or seven months and nothing happen to him,AFTER JODY SAID NOT TO,doesn't make sense for him to just snap right then.As Officer Tim Carter said,he has no right to take the boys life.If he wasn't happy with who Sarah wanted to be with,then that was something he needed to take up with Sarah.Thats when he should have stepped up and became a father to the girl.Jody has no brain/heart if he was able to take a KIDS life.I hope he realizes that he took someone who meant the world to a lot of people and he is going to regret it.I hope the courts give him what he deserves and whoever is sticking on Jody's side you should find some heart yourself.I got mine.I will be praying for the Barker family and friends and Sarah.I know this is going to take a lot of healing to do and its not going to be easy.Death gets the best of people and this one is hard.We love you Brendon and we know your watching over us all and your in a better place now.God Bless the Barker Family!
-Courtney


Date: January 9, 2009 4:45 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Stephanie
Comment:

I attend Strasburg High school as a junior. I was a class mate of Brendon Barker and at one time with Sarah. Brendon was an all around nice guy. He was nice and friendly to everyone. He always walked around with a smile on his face. It is a HUGE loss of the Class of 2010. It's really tragic loss. There are a lot of people close to Brendon and people are really torn up. It's hard to believe someone could do something to him. I don't understand why someone would do this to him. So all you people who really didn't know him and are talking about this situation. I was a fellow class mate and friend of Brendon Barker. My prayers are with him and his family. its a hard loss and it will be hard for the rest of my high school life. May god be with you Brendon. You are truly missed at SHS!


Date: January 10, 2009 9:05 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: love my grandkids
Comment:

yes, i agree jody did do wrong very wrong but as we all know none of us have the rite to judge,and yes i feel for all envolved in this tragedy and as a parent and grandparent i could and hope i never have to experience losing any of my children,but at the same time i cant imagine jody as a parent doing this with any kind of thought of intentionally harming the boy.my thoughts are that jody snapped at the time and i know that still does not justify what he did but wat will he also go thru the rest of his life with this on his mind.i know alot of you say who cares but at the same time he needs help to get thru this too.im not making excuses for him, but no one knows wat he may be going thru. we all know wat the familys are going thru and even though he cant redo all of this im sure if he could he would.i am also praying for all involved and hope everyone can find a way to get through this.praying for each of the families and all the ones involved. my prayers are with you all.


Date: January 11, 2009 4:12 AM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: quitbickering1
Comment:

First I apologize for any misspelling. This is truly a tragedy. Unfortunately this story or stories like it are being told all over the US every day. Our “so called civilized society” isn’t much of a civilized society is it? What are we doing with all these comments? What do we "think" we know about what happened that night? The answer is nothing but what the papers and police reports state. The only ones that know ALL the facts of that tragic night are the three people that were there. Some are pointing fingers, some are saying he deserved it because there was a trespass warrant, some are saying send Bradley to the chair, some are just saying we are praying for you. All to often when these situations arise we as humans "THINK" we have the right to judge those involved where in fact we DONT. That is Gods job and those of a jury. True Jody should have never shot the boy even though he "may" have felt he was protecting his own. Personally I would have sent him home with a good old whooping. Actually better yet, whooped him and took him home and had a talk with his parents. But as I said I don’t know what I would do in this situation. True the boy should have been disciplined enough to respect the law and not gone back after being served a trespass warrant and being told what would happen if he came back. Although I personally remember what it was like to be a teen boy and "think" I'm in love. Those hormones can be our own worst enemy. Although that is still no excuse for going back. Its also true that maybe the young mans parents should have stepped in just a little further and put a size 12 in his rear end after getting the warrant and made sure he didn’t go back. These are all personal opinions that I have heard and agreed with from all kinds of friends and family on both sides. So what are the facts? A man shot a young man and it’s a tragedy. The boy lost his whole life ahead of him. Sarah will be scarred for life and Jody will most likely spend the rest of his life in jail. The lives’ of two families ruined because quite a few people didn’t do what they should have and hind sight is always 20/20. I have a daughter and a son both still young but I hope in the future if god forbid something even remotely close to this comes up, I hope I make the right decisions to avoid such a tragic result. As I stated before I can’t say what I would do in this situation but over the last 18 months I have seen enough death and devastation to learn this one thing. We all need to learn a little humility. We ALL need to stop pointing fingers and quit thinking we have the right to judge and cast dispersions and spend more time praying for ALL the people and families involved. At the end of the day all the blaming and finger pointing and getting bent out of shape does nothing but breed more anger and evil in our hearts and all that does is tear what’s left of our communities and our country apart. I pray for us all. Remember no matter how big or little the crime or sin the Bible says “Let he who is with out sin cast the first stone”.


Date: January 12, 2009 1:39 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: humbled
Comment:

I am very someone that was very close to Brendon. I would like to thank everyone for their prayers and well wishes. What has happened to Brendon, his family, Sarah, his friends and the community at large is a tragedy. I have read the comments that have been written and agree that Brendon should have respected Sarah's father's wishes, but who of us hasn't experienced the thrill of our first love? Who of us hasn't taken chances to be with that certain someone? Even as adults, some of us now are or have been sneaking around risking everything that we have to see that special person. I am certainly not pointing fingers or condoning either...just stating fact. I can truly say that I would have risked EVERYTHING for my first love...and did. The true victims in this horrible crime are, first and foremost Brendon and his family, Sarah and her family, Brendon's countless friends, and every single life that this has been touched. I hope that maybe we can learn to listen to and try to understand our children a little more and maybe hear your parent's pleas to protect yourselves and make wise choices; to learn from our mistakes. But mostly to learn one thing from our Brendon TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! I can say that the comment that I have heard most frequently about him is that he NEVER had any negative to say about anyone....not even Jody Bradley. As for him...we have faith that Sheriff Carter will find the truth's that will give us the closest thing to justice that we will be able to accept. At least we will have comfort in the knowledge that he will be in a place where he will not be able to hurt anyone else. May God Bless You All


Date: January 13, 2009 9:50 AM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Dawn
Comment:

My heart goes out to Brendon's family and friends, but especially to Jody's daughter, Sarah, who not only lost her boyfriend that evening but also her Dad and to have witnessed it in such a horrible fashion. She will need lots of counseling and lots of prayers. So many people are blaming Sarah for inviting her boyfriend over, knowing how her Dad felt about Brendon, but there is no excuse for murder in my book. No one has the right to take another life no matter how you feel about that person. If Jody would have just called the police that evening he would still be farming his land and his daughter would still have her Dad.

I graduated with Jody and we are in the process of planning our 30th Class Reunion this year. It's a real shame he won't be attending...and in reality, he will probably get the death penalty or life in prison with no parole if he is lucky. I pray God forgives his bitter heart.


Date: January 13, 2009 3:09 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

Because I am a little too close to this situation knowing Jodi & Sarah and his son at one time very closely, I will not comment because I know there is something we all don't know, that Jodi lived to farm for his family..and would never have pre planned this as is being said now. He does not have a twisted mind or heart. My best friend who I lost last year, used to always ask me a question when I felt strongly against someone...for example the young mother in Fla. who allegedly killed her 3 year old daughter. He would say to me~"What are you going to do if you get to heaven and Hitler is there?" I won't tell you my reply years ago when he first asked, but I got the point. None of us are allowed to judge another, especially when none of us REALLY knows what actually happened. Nor is it our business....we have our own families and lives and pasts to deal with. For every finger you point..there are 4 more pointing back at you....prayers are the best we can do for all in this situation....


Date: January 13, 2009 8:39 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: out of town reader
Comment:

One of my grandchildren went school with Brendon Barker--according to him Brendon was a very well liked kid. I understand the teachers had no trouble from Brendon. I guess he had respect for them. I guess all of you that say he should have respected Bradley don't realize that respect is something that has to be earned..No matter what this young boy and girl did - they did not deserve this. I wonder if he really loved and respected his daughter enough to sit and talk to her or Brendon about this situation? He killed Brendon-really got himself respected there-he blamed his daughter, who will probably never and I do mean NEVER get over this. I hope this is not what you belive respect is all about. I personally believe jail or the death penalty is really to good for this man--or cowardly mouse. Maybe he will get what most child killers in jail get. We can only hope....Yes I know I should not judge but I bet God is really angry about this, too! Bradley not only hurt these two families he also left a mark on all those kids that loved Brendon too. I wonder what they did to him? My most heartfelt sympathy goes to the Barker family...I am so..so..sorry. And to you Sarah. May God bless you all.


Date: January 19, 2009 12:58 PM
Story headline: Community mourns death of teen, recalls memories during service at Strasburg High
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

LOSS

When the knife of separation cleaves our heart, and sections this time in space from the rest, the pain comes in a heavy dark fog, a suffocating blanket. It wends its way along the hidden by-ways of the mind, and touches the empty spaces in the heart, where love or longing for love once resided, but is no more.

In a tick of a second, the loss plunks a chunk from the heart, and in that moment, the pain overwhelms us, and we feel it will never heal.

But time soothes the wound, for new love grows around it. It never completely disappears, it will be touched again, when a new space is created.

The spaces remain, regardless of the passing years, they become part of the heart, the part that never lets you forget the joy, and love and life that once filled them. Memories of love now fill the voids, although pain is mingled with joy.

Would life be better for not suffering loss? Never losing what we love? Without the empty spaces, how would we know fulfillment?

Life is strange, for love is never lost. Love never grows cold, it never dies. Love lives on, to warm the cold morning hours, and blooms in the snow like a boquet of flowers....

There is always another door that opens when one closes, and always a lesson to be learned from any tragedy. No one who leaves this earth ever really leaves for good...for having walked here once, we walk here always....
I wish all involved in this tragedy peace and forgiveness and healing someday......


Date: February 10, 2009 11:56 PM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: Rick Simonetti
Comment:

This is certainly a tragedy for all of the family memebers involved. I think the best thing everyone can do is pray for both familys. It is not our job to judge anyone on this earth and non of us actually knows what and how this happened. My prayers will go for both familys.


Date: February 19, 2009 12:17 PM
Story headline: Residents discuss Bell execution
Comment posted by: anglhrtdvlmnd
Comment:

I am one of the people who have serious doubts about Eddie's guilt. I have stood by this since he was arrested and I still believe that if they go through with the execution then they are killing an innocent man. May god have mercy on the souls of those involved in the execution.


Date: February 20, 2009 12:41 AM
Story headline: Residents discuss Bell execution
Comment posted by: Robin
Comment:

I want to say that I think a terrible tragedy occurred at 9pm tonight when Eddie was executed. I want to commend your reporters all of them who have gave Eddie a chance from the beginning.I hope that someone writes a book about this conspiracy and how someone died today simply because they were the the wrong color at the wrong place at the wrong time.When I listened to the story Eddie gave about being scared and hiding because it reminded him of back home,I knew for sure at that moment he was telling the truth because i have heard many Jamaicans same the exact same thing.This man came from a different culture,and some rugged ways of life.However,that did not make him a killer,it made him a martyr. Eddie Bell is sadly but a statistic of what happens when you have no money and are accused of a crime.Had Eddie been wealthy there is no doubt that he would be setting somewhere listening to some smooth reggae and enjoying his life,now his children and family are left with the heartache and despair.To the Bell family:May god bring you peace and comfort in this time of tragedy,but know that Eddie is with his father and at peace,the others will live on and one day will see that Eddie was innocent. I wonder how they will apologize to you.Mr.Shipley write this book and tell Eddie's story,then he will rest in peace.


Date: February 20, 2009 7:10 AM
Story headline: Residents discuss Bell execution
Comment posted by: wescoell
Comment:

I'm just not convinced that Mr. Bell is guilty. Seems like a cover up will one day be exposed...and at what a cost. May peace be with his family, for he had one as well.


Date: February 20, 2009 7:13 AM
Story headline: Bell's last words: 'You definitely have the wrong person. The truth will come out one day.'
Comment posted by: wescoell
Comment:

I'm just not convinced that Mr. Bell is guilty. Seems like a cover up will one day be exposed...and at what a cost. May peace be with his family, for he had one as well.


Date: February 20, 2009 4:24 PM
Story headline: Residents discuss Bell execution
Comment posted by: MGuynes
Comment:

Well it never seems to fail that just because a black jamaican man was executed for a police officers death, this automatically becomes a racism issue?? No. Not hardly, I do not agree with any of that statement. Although, I do believe that had the victim of the shooting been one other than an officer of the law, he'd have not been on death row. Yes, it's very possible that Bell could've easily been in the wrong place at the wrong time, but who's to know for sure? Noone. Noone but himself. I'm not for nor against the death penalty, I believe the sentencing lies solely on the case itself. At times, I do believe that.. why should you be given the gift of life if you feel the need to take anothers? Especially depending on the reasoning. Then again, Bell has a family that is going to be without a father.. and that's something that deep down truely can't be replaced. I do feel that the death penalty in this case is something that should've been given a closer look and more thought put into the process, but that's the way our courts system works around here. They don't see the future, all they see and know is that Bell has been the one accused of killing one of their men. That's all they care about. But noone is to say that he wasn't guilty.. or that it was because of his race or ethnicity. That's just foolish.


Date: February 23, 2009 9:21 AM
Story headline: Bell's last words: 'You definitely have the wrong person. The truth will come out one day.'
Comment posted by: anglhrtdvlmnd
Comment:

This is a true travesty and one day when everyone involved comes to the realization that they executed an innocent man I hope that god understands. To the Bell family, my thoughts and prayers are with you and I hope you take some (however little) comfort in knowing that there are people out there that believed in Eddie and will continue to do so.


Date: March 17, 2009 10:42 AM
Story headline: Man confesses to shooting 16-year-old boy to death
Comment posted by: gatorgurl09
Comment:

I Started out in SHS then moved to CHS so i knew both of the kids in this one! I just dont understand who in the right mind would take the life of a child! Jody NEEDS the death pentilty because he needs to die the same way that Brendon died, Because he needs to feel what he did!!! Sarah and the Baker Family when i read this i wanted to break down in tears! I didnt know them that well but just knowing that i went to school with both of them! But it was sad and i will keep you in my prayers and the church will be praying for both families!!

GOD BLESS EVERYONE THAT WAS HURT IN THIS!!


Date: June 13, 2009 2:43 PM
Story headline: Homicide suspect sought
Comment posted by: Candace__78
Comment:

I think it is irrelevant to include the opinion of a neighbor who says "having such an incident occur nearby wasn't "really a big deal" to him." This incident WAS a BIG DEAL to many of the people who knew and loved "Fat Scott" I am appalled that the author of this piece used such a flat tone in describing a disturbing and shocking incident. Next time find a credible source who has something to lend other than cheap opinions of someone completely unknown to him! Rotten Tomatoes NVDaily!!!!!!!


Date: July 14, 2009 7:05 AM
Story headline: Woodstock eyes 'pooper scooper' ordinance
Comment posted by: Greeneyes
Comment:

I totally agree there needs to be an ordinance in Woodstock as well as Edinburg for pet owners to pick up their pets poop. I lived in Loudoun County for years and the county provides trash containers as well as plastic gloves along parkways and in parks. Residents are fined a samll fee if they do not pick up their pets poop. I take walks in Woodstock and I do not want to see dog poop along the street or in yards and I surely do not want to step in it.


Date: July 21, 2009 12:10 PM
Story headline: Slater indicted on another capital murder count
Comment posted by: dodgeman22657
Comment:

Does he even deserve a trial?


Date: July 22, 2009 10:11 AM
Story headline: Slater indicted on another capital murder count
Comment posted by: T. Brooke
Comment:

The great sadness about this situation is he totally destroyed his own family (his parents have lost both their sons) and he created a horrible loss for Kayleigh's family. I am sure he is sorry for his acts; isn't everyne sorry when they are caught?


Date: July 23, 2009 4:21 AM
Story headline: Slater gets indictments for assault and battery
Comment posted by: Linda Foley
Comment:


I wonder how much weight, other than the actual paperwork, these additional charges will make considering he has already confessed to the murder of two people. On top of a capital murder conviction, these additional charges will, I'm sure, heap on the years of incarceration.
Slater has absolutely nothing to lose by creating more paperwork by wreaking more havoc. Are we to think he will be a good little boy now that more charges have been added? I can't wait to read what's next.


Date: July 23, 2009 6:58 AM
Story headline: Slater gets indictments for assault and battery
Comment posted by: Patriot
Comment:

Lemme tell you what's next. The Frederick County Commonwealth Attorney will plea bargain the capital murder charge down to life in prison and drop all of these little charges that Slater's racked up while in custody. However, the Clarke County Commonwealth Attorney will go after the death penalty, because she's got salt. This is assuming they determine the young girl was murdered in Clarke County.


Date: August 9, 2009 11:12 PM
Story headline: Bob Wooten: 'Clunkers' no help for responsible
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Hey Bob, sounds good to me that you don't qualify...
You would have to spend money which it doesn't seem you like to do.It would probably hurt the economy more because you would not support American made again and give more american jobs to overseas people that wants to take your freedom away from you.
I think they made a good choice for you to help the economy in America.
Lee in America


Date: August 10, 2009 8:21 AM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Interstate outrages continue
Comment posted by: tojo45
Comment:

I agree that I-81 can be a scary place to drive, and most of what you listed is relevant, except for "foreign drivers." Do you mean drivers with loads that originated in Canada or Mexico, or do you just mean immigrants? Either way, I think it needs explained. People who are already quick to point at the "@$%&&# immigrants" don't need to have their newspapers pour gas on the fire. Being foreign shouldn't be a blanket reason to blame anyone for anything.


Date: August 10, 2009 12:15 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Interstate outrages continue
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

I would have to agree that the "foreign drivers" comment was a bit out of line..... it's not like british folks are constantly driving down the wrong side of the road and causing accidents.


Date: August 10, 2009 11:13 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Interstate outrages continue
Comment posted by: claymore
Comment:

Have you ever driven in L.A. or Miami?????


Date: August 17, 2009 8:29 PM
Story headline: Murder trial for Bradley delayed
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

May God Bless ALL involved in this case, and I hope it is realized at some point that there is not just 1 person to blame in this all. It may be 1 person sentenced for it, and I nor anyone I know have had to go to such great lengths to keep someone away from my daughters when they were growing as Jody did. I judge no one, but see the situation with very open eyes and heart...and pray that all heal from this, some day. Including Jody....so much of this county judged him without knowing him or the entire situation, and that's pretty sad. We all have our own lives and inventories to tend to.....when you point your finger at him..make sure you caount how many are pointed back at you...


Date: August 19, 2009 1:29 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: Hank
Comment:

The father gave warning and obtained a no tresspass against
the punk. WHY is he on trial? NOT GUILTY!!!
Iwould do the same.


Date: August 19, 2009 2:41 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

What a moron. He is on trial because it was an execution. Not self defense, not protecting his home, an execution. There are a lot of other ways he could have been handled the situation. That's what grownups are supposed to do. He didn't break in, he was invited. Before you say you'd do the same imagine what trauma your daughter would experience seeing someone, not to mention her boyfriend, executed in front of her.


Date: August 19, 2009 3:14 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: Supermom07
Comment:

UHHH He killed a person. He should get the death sentence, and how can he say to his daughter 'My life's over, Brendon's life's over, but you still have yours. Do with it what you wish. UMMM now she can do what she wishes with her life after he kills her boyfriend?? I understand as a parent you want the best for your children but he went about it the wrong way. The more you try to control a teenager the more they are going to react. Teenagers are going to want to experience things in life, thats what you have to except when you have children. Plus the girl is the one who pushed the issue of the boy coming over, so it's partly her fault. In any case her father sounds like a mental case anyway.


Date: August 19, 2009 4:12 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: justamom
Comment:

Are you kidding me??? I don't care how many times he warned that kid. No child deserves to be killed. He knew who it was, he SHOULD have called the police again.


Date: August 19, 2009 5:51 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: mommie2
Comment:

Granted the boy had no business being there but he did not deserve to die. He was just a kid who wanted to spend time with his girlfriend.


Date: August 19, 2009 6:19 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

the guy you call a punk his name was brendon and he was a great guy. He was sweet and kind and could make anyones day. But you wouldn't know that because you didn't know him and his life got taken away before he really got to live it. I don't know what the jury will decide but I hope that they put bradley away for a long long time. Nothing will ever bring brendon back but bradley deserves to be punished for taking him away from everyone who loved and cared about him.


Date: August 19, 2009 6:24 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/63f.QZB514FIz6lns3u10KnPV0Lv4c5c#91441
Comment:

Not Guilty? How does one admit to shooting a child in the head become not guilty? He's using drugs as his defence and yet he knew of the drugs. He didn't think before he acted made a mess up and has no way to fix it. My heart goes out to Sara and her family as well as Brendon's family. I only hope our judicial system works for these families and places this man where he belongs so that he can't hurt another child!


Date: August 19, 2009 7:12 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: EMT_Mandy
Comment:

I do not agree that Bradley shot Barker to death but he had several warnings to not be there.
If Barker really cared for Sarah he would have respected the fact that her father would not allow him over to see her and this would never have happend.
The question we should be asking is why didn't his parents make sure he was not going back to the Bradley's home when he had been served with trespass notices?
Instead of just putting down Mr. Bradley why don't we also blame Barkers parents for having no control over their child?


Date: August 19, 2009 10:07 PM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

Think you should go to trial and hear evidence before you call anyone a moron. He was wearing a hood covering both sides of his face, and Jody had already decided Sarah had told the truth and was noone up there and on his way OUT when in the dark a hooded figure moved startling him. I kind of would have liked to see toxicology reports myself...because kids who admit to doing drugs usually don't make wise decisions. I know..I was young once too. I was smart enough to sneak out..not bring in a boyfriend to my dad's house. Jody is also a very good person, who works very hard for his family & children whom he loves very much. Jody did everything legally he was told to do. He did not see Brendon's face, and even if he had...it startled him and he shot...just as he does groundhogs etc. It was NOT an execution. The whole situation is a sad lesson not only for teenagers who disobey their parents, do drugs and think that at 16 they can do what they want...it is also a VERY good lesson for every parent out there with a rebellious teen. Jody loved his daughter enough to do all he could to straighten her out...and now he may be punished for being a father? And the really sad thing he is...to him I think as long as her life has gotten better, he seems willing to take the fall for the actions and NON actions of many other people in the situation. My prayers go to all, I work with recovering addicts...and this is just another sad story of life today in this world it seems....


Date: August 20, 2009 10:41 AM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: hgm2010
Comment:

How dare every single one of you to say that Brendon deserved this. How can you sit there and blame him? Blame his parents? He was a 16 year old CHILD in love with his girlfriend. Teenagers make mistakes. It happens. Sarah made it very clear that Brendon was not 'poisoning' her. Bradley is an adult. And yes while adults make mistakes as well, killing an innocent child with so much life to live is not one that is excusable. He is guilty. He stood 2 feet away and pulled the trigger. We can sit here and debate all day about the fact that Brendon was not supposed to be on the property. What was Sarah thinking when she invited him over? But the bottom line is Brendon was taken away from his family and his friends far sooner than anyone ever deserves to. Sarah lost two of the closest people in her life with one shot; with one awful, horrendous decision. Brendon was not a punk. He was not a bad kid. He made mistakes like everyone does. But what makes any of you think that he deserved to of been killed for that, is beyond me.


Date: August 21, 2009 7:29 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: mommie2
Comment:

Somebody please tell me that the judge does not have to listen to this joke of a sentencing recommendation and will give him the full 40 years.


Date: August 21, 2009 7:58 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/Pr0xQcF.2OPDREYvzS5h0qnSlcsbx0j6ODAP#17101
Comment:

It is one of the biggest fails I have seen. 9 years, for very intentional murder.....If that is what actually carries out all I know is that man will have a very hard life to live even when he moves out of Edinburg. People will hear of what he did and hate him for it. I feel very sorry for all the family members, all I can do is just keep shaking my head in disbelief.


Date: August 21, 2009 8:38 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Twt
Comment:

This very intentional murder (as described above) would not have happened, if this young man would have obeyed the tresspass order that was placed against him. Although I don't think shooting someone over it was the answer, what is done is done. Hopefully people will realize, when they are told not to come on someone's property, that means to stay off. Who is to say someone else wouldn't do the same thing? People can only be pushed so far, and obviously this guy was pushed too far.

There should be outrage with the parents of this boy for not getting their son to stay away from this home. There should be outrage at this young lady for not obeying her father and creating this situation to happen. It all could have been avoided if they followed the rules, but they felt they were above that. Or maybe it was the drugs that was hindering their thinking. Oh, but wait, they were both upstanding kids, doing drugs and disobeying the rules.

There is plenty of blame to go around for this entire situation. Instead of blaming the jury, people need to look at the entire situation. This man will live with what he did the rest of his life. I hope Sarah remembers what her part is, every day of her life also. She brought most of this on and should be facing charges also.


Date: August 21, 2009 8:51 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Hank
Comment:

Hi guys,
First of all my dictionary defines Punk as
1. Nonsense. 2. A petty hoodlum. 3.A young inexperienced
boy or man:a contemptuous term. -adj. 1. worthless. 2.unwell.
So I call it like I see it.
Under Va. law fortunatly a judge may reduce but not increase
a juries recomendation.
The punks mother stated "Being a mom is my pourpose". She was told in no uncertain terms what would happen if she allowed her petty hoolum to continue destroying a young girls life. And she has the nerve to try to profit by suing MR. Bradley.
Hold your head high Jody. You did what needed to be done.
We do not hate you and will be there for you.
God Bless,
Hank, and your many friends.


Date: August 21, 2009 8:51 AM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: kristi8
Comment:

It is as simple as this... Bradley is not God and had not right to take Brendon's life. My heart goes out to Brendon's family and Sarah. They were just kids experimenting like most of them do ... young love.


Date: August 21, 2009 9:54 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: His Bullship
Comment:

Something is quite wrong here. Conviction for MURDER gets nine years (plus 3 for use of gun), while Page County's ex-Sheriff Presgraves could get THREE-HUNDRED years for alegedly taking a $600 bribe? By my book, this is patently unfair. Duh!


Date: August 21, 2009 10:10 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: 2anjwls
Comment:

I can't believe this, a man kills a 16 year boy and gets nine years. This is an outrage, this makes me sick. In nine years he will be free to live the rest of his life, and this family will never see this child again. Justice was far from being served in this case everyone involved should be hiding their faces in shame.


Date: August 21, 2009 11:26 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: shenandoah
Comment:

It is not hard to understand the outrage of the family of the victim, however, if after being warned many times is there not some responsibility to advise your teenager not to trespass on a property where he is clearly not welcome? I do not condone the method of which Jody chose to deal with the unwanted and unwelcome intruder but clearly the boy should not have been there. The blame lays on many people, the system which let the father down, the disobedient daughter, the family of the victim and the outraged father who pulled the trigger. What would we be saying if Jody had simply chosen to shoot the boy in the leg? Being the parent of a teenager can be a difficult journey. Open communication and a remembrance of your own teenage years should be a guide. I feel sadness for all of the involved, let a lesson come from this tragedy for both the young and old alike...


Date: August 21, 2009 11:37 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

this comment goes to the punk named hank that has all the friends high fiving each other over this messed up jury ,this man has used a dictionery to describe himself .how can any grownup man make some statments youve made is beyond me (by the way thats my real name)this KID must have been a threat to your punk buddy named jody cause if it was my situation i wouldve whipped the boys butt, he would have gotten the message and i would have went to jail and went to trial and the judge would have strighten both of us out kid would still be alive and daughter would still be sneanking around .i have 6 kids 4 of them daughters kids will be kids young love is like that i used to sneak around to see some young pretty girl too ,i guess since your a punk,you hung with guys always. any ways ol punk jody has at least 10 years to be abused by the good ol boys in the dept of corrections they hate child killers


Date: August 21, 2009 11:50 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

I can't believe that a jury full of PEOPLE HUMAN BEINGS just like brendon could sit there and basically say Jody its ok for you to murder a 16 year old child . Its ok for you to play GOD!!! This is basically a slap on the wrist compared to what they could have given him. Brendon was an amazing person he was fun and outgoing and if you were upset he could put a smile on your face. & JODY BRADLEY THAT MONSTER!!! took that away from all of us . Jody took someones son, brother,boyfriend,and bestfriend after everyone has gone through all this pain the jury hurt everyone more when they recomended that ridiculus sentence. I can't believe the world has to this to where Justice is not served for a crime as horrendous as this. I agree with ryan I hope that they have nightmares Knowing that this crazy man will be walking the streets again!!!! I hope the judge is sane and ups this sentence alot!!!


Date: August 21, 2009 11:50 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: basyegirl
Comment:

Look,,this boy did not have to die at all! This man knew better. Weren't we all 16 year olds at one time, didnt obey one time or another because we was in "love"? I know i have. This man took a life and he needs to be punished for it, to me 9 years is just a ridiculous sentence. This county gives the darndest senteces ever! And I'm sure Mr. Bradley wishes he could go back but he can't. He killed a 16 year old boy and he needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law!


Date: August 21, 2009 12:22 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Crysnikk
Comment:

How in the world can anyone sit back and tell Jody to hold his head high for killing a 16 year old boy?!? That just makes me sick to my stomach. Yes, the teenage boy and girl should have stopped sneaking around behind Mr. Bradley's back. BUT, none of that gives him the right to take a KID's life. A KID...he was 16...with so much life left to live and learn. There's no excuse for it and Im absolutely disgusted with the jury. Mr. Bradley stated several times he was going to kill Mr. Barker if he came on his property. Just because he warned him...does that make it ok?? Murder is murder people! They are teenagers. If any of you have teenage kids, then you will know that it's not the easiest task in life to raise one...but I guess now its ok to go and kill kids everytime they disobey your wishes since Mr. Bradley did it. This trial makes me ashamed of living in Shenandoah County. Others have pointed out that people with drug charges get more time, and they were absolutely right. Clearly, some of you are just as messed up in the head as Jody Bradley.
For those of you who are blaming the mother...What else could she have done? Obviously Mr. Bradley couldnt stop his daughter from seeing Mr. Barker...so what makes you think the mother was able to? My prayers are with Barker's family.


Date: August 21, 2009 12:22 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

I almost got physically ill today when I read the recommended sentence for Jody Lynn Bradley. To give such a light sentence to a man who shot an unarmed boy, BOY! is unconscionable and outrageous. I can only conclude that the jury in this case is morally bankrupt and mean-spirited. To Mr. Bradley, as well as the jury, I might remind that there is one more judgment to be handed down, and it might not go as easy as this one did.


Date: August 21, 2009 12:23 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Supermom07
Comment:

One person can not destroy someone elses life. Everybody makes their own decisions. So because Jody killed one person to keep from his daughter, does that mean he should shoot anybody he does not like or doesn't agree with their way of living? His daughter has her whole life ahead of her, how is he going to stop every not so good decision she makes? So what your saying is if you don't like someones boyfriend its ok to shoot them? Or your making it ok to say if someone doesnt like you its ok to shoot you? Because basically thats what your statement is saying. This ingorant person that is suppose to be called a "father" did not act like a mature adult would. If the boy was trespassing all he had to do was call the police. HE SHOULD GET THE DEATH PENALTY!!


Date: August 21, 2009 1:35 PM
Story headline: Jury deliberations will resume today
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

How is it you "hunt someone down" when they are hiding in your dark attic against a trespass notice?


Date: August 21, 2009 1:56 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

You who were not there have NO CLUE how hard this jury worked..or the toll it took on them, because this was a VERY difficult case. Jody did NOT intentionally hunt down someone hiding in a dark place in his attic who startled him after he thought Sarah had told the truth and no one was up there..so he began to make his way OUT...of a 4 ft high attic..when Brendon moved a little startling Jody who already had his gun cocked. A daughter who admits to drug use...is now clean. Her father, went through months of doing all he could to help her. What was scary to me was to hear a school official say they hear dads threaten all the time that they will shoot their daughters boyfriends...so that it seems like no big deal. It IS a big deal...and what is scary is that this may be history now here...but I dare say it may happen again. Drugs and alcohol are a recipe for disaster...EVERY DAY. Watch your children, and their friends. Many are not aware their own kids are doing the same thing...today, and will be tomorrow. And until you walk in a father's shoes who had a situation dumped on him...you should not judge. Ultimately God is the judge..and I dare say Jody has pleaded his case where it mattered most.


Date: August 21, 2009 2:11 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Momof4
Comment:

I do not think what this man is right, he went through the proper channels and even asked the boys parents to keep him from trespassing, some people believe they are above the law. The boys parents should have heeded this warning. Let this be a lesson to all of our children.


Date: August 21, 2009 2:11 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

There is something kind of scary when a 16 year old boy puts in his My Space profile that he hopes to die by gun shot...what 16 year old thinks about their death and how they want to die?


Date: August 21, 2009 3:10 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

well,i'll try again i guess the n.v.daily did'nt approve of my first comment toward hank (a.k.n. PUNK) jody was and is a coward ,to kill a boy like that is shameful i have 6 kids and 4 of them are daughters they are all of age now but i always thought i would go to prison over one of them messing around with some young boy well that never happen .but i did go to prison over a drug charge 6 years and that was a first offence.i know that judge Hupp is a fair man and he has compassion toward people,im sure he will do the best he can to bring some type of justice to this sad situation.myself i would have put the fear in the boy to stay out of my house with a good ol butt kicking i would have been charged ,locked up and tried and the judge would have put the law to me and the BOY.my way would be wrong too ,and i wouldnt have stop 2 kids from sneaking around but he would be alive. jody will get he's in prison


Date: August 21, 2009 4:48 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/Pr0xQcF.2OPDREYvzS5h0qnSlcsbx0j6ODAP#17101
Comment:

Hold your head up high???? You took a life!!!!! Nine years is a joke! 40 years isn't even enough. "You did what needed to be done." Taking the life of a child is not what needed to be done in this case. You act like you were never a teenager, you never disobeyed your parents, you never snuck around. Wouldn't you want someone to serve more than 9 years if they killed someone point blank in your family? I am ashamed of this county and have lost all respect for it's joke of a judicial system.


Date: August 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: love my grandkids
Comment:

Well for those of you who want to point fingers,your day is coming!How can you sit and say i would have done this or that when you dont even know what was goin on in Jody's mind!!!
If only you were at the trial maybe things would be more clear to you!!If Jody really wanted to kill this bot it could have been done long before this.So did you ever think he was at the end of his rope and didnt really know who was up there or that he was shooting at the boy.For those of you to say there will be another judgement day and he will pay there, or it wont be so easy ,only one man can answer that and im sure its none of you!!!I have grown children to and when they were teenagers i did what i could to keep them out of harms way no matter how cruel it seemed to me. I was young once and been there done that and didnt want to take any chances with my kids.Where were the boys parents and at 16 i would think they would have more control.SO stop and think how many people are to blame in this situation,its not only Jody were was her mother???WHY did she not step in and help?It sounds to me like there was no parental control over either one of these kids other than Jody and he was at the end of his rope because he got no help from anyone!!!!!How far do you have to go to keep kids out of trouble these days??It should only be a phone call away to get help!!!Or at least a start to help!!!He was doin all he could were was all the rest???Dont put the blame were it dont belong!!!!Start by askin yourself what would i do to protect my kids!!!I dont think it was a matter of hate but a matter of raisin his daughter rite not exsposeing her to all bad stuff!!!!he wanted better for her!!!!!Jody really does love his daughter.Those of you who dont know Jody dont know what a caring and good person he is!!!He has enough to live with what has happened and no one in this world know's how he feels and what he's going through!!!!!!!Put yourself there!!


Date: August 21, 2009 6:29 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

i want to reply that i have 6 kids and 4 of them are daughters.yeah you are real protective over daughters,because i remember i was once a young boy that when you hit that age and all the hormones get to racing in your system ,when you start to have a eye for some little girl friend its exciting first love and you want to explore the newness of it.i do not know any of these people but i do know that decent minded people use wisdom and common sense when it comes to stubborn teenage kids.there have been and will always be what our society calls crimes of passion you know what im talking about .a man or a woman will make threats about killing a spouse when and if they catch their wife or husband with so and so or any one .what this punk did was thought thru ,on purpose and with a thinking mind .he wasnt protecting his daughter from harm she wasnt in harms way ,the boy was invited by her into the home yeah he knew he wasnt suppose to be there and even voiced that concern to the girl ,but as i said earlier the hormones get to boiling over and he went against what he really knew to do stay away ,let her come out to meet him .this punk named jody killed him in cold blood and there is something awful twisted about him to feel that was what needed to be done .as a father of 4 young women now im glad i always used common sense when it came to my daughters and all the hormone over dosed boy friends cause the worst that would have happen was a charge of assault against one of them ,but that never happen cause i had to believe that i had taught them to respect their selves enough to draw a line ,yeah im sure they explored their youthfulness like so many of us parents did the man could have called the law with the boy locked in his attic and they would have charged him and took him thru the system may have changed his thinking about sneeking around then maybe not point is the man deserves more than 12 years and then the sick friends who say hold your head high and be what proud thats messed up .we have real heros that are in war and the stress of it has them shooting people in iraq that they feel threaten by that is not a threat killing for the sake of killing and getting more time this coward wont make it 10 years in the va.penal system cause he's a punk and a coward i guess he will do all his time in solitary confinement .cause thats where all the cowards hide or the punk that he is will have the protection of bubba.he is twisted ,you want best for your daughters but he missed what that statement means hes losted her respect and love it really makes me sick ,but i know that judge Hupp is a fair and compassionate man he will do the best he can to make sure justice is served to the best of his ability


Date: August 21, 2009 6:53 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

It was a survey on myspace I would answer if I was asked . What is patheitic is that you really read into the answer you can't tell me that no one thinks about how their life might end . we think about it but that dosn't mean we want it to happen but brendon didn't have a choice. In every post you defend this monster . I don't understand how anyone can condon someone killing a child .


Date: August 21, 2009 6:58 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: EMT_Mandy
Comment:


Romans 2:1
"You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things."

People why dont we think about things before we start to judge.
Jody is human and I am sure he has lots of regrets along with the loss. Not alone did the Barker's have a loss but so has Jody now that his daughter wants nothing to do with him.
Lets not just think of the victim... Jody has a family also.
So unless you were there lets not judge and assume things.
Only those three people know what happened that day and only they will know the truth and that may never be told.

There is only one person who can judge us and that's up to the man up above to do so. Let him do his job!


Date: August 21, 2009 7:10 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: gg10
Comment:

Kids make mistakes. They break the rules; it’s what you’re supposed to do. It’s how we learn. We learn from our mistakes to know that we shouldn’t break the rules again. Who hasn’t broken the rules? Everyone has, everyone should. Teenagers don’t think about the consequences of our actions. We break the rules. We break laws. It’s not right but its life. And for a sixteen year old boy’s life to be taken because he broke a rule, a law, that’s absolutely preposterous. What is even more preposterous is that the man who took that life, gets off with practically a slap on the wrist. Lawyers say, “The punishment should fit the crime.” How does 12 years in prison, 3 of them not even for the murder of a 16 year old who had his whole life in front of him, fit the crime of taking a life. How do 9 years compare to the life of Brendon Manning Barker. I knew Brendon. He and I weren’t close, which is something I have come to regret through not knowing him, because from everything that has transpired through all of this, his friends, I wish I had known him. And for anyone who thinks that what Jody did was “right” or “legal” think about this, what if Brendon was your son, or your brother, your boyfriend, your best friend, would you still think that is okay? It doesn’t matter what rule or what law he may have broken, he was somebody to so many people. Just think if he was your somebody. Rest in Peace BMB.


Date: August 21, 2009 7:42 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/Pr0xQcF.2OPDREYvzS5h0qnSlcsbx0j6ODAP#17101
Comment:

He knew what he was doing, he put himself there. Whatever he is going through is his own doing. No one made him trap those kids in that room while he looked for his gun to kill a defenseless child.


Date: August 21, 2009 10:21 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

mommie2...the judge doesn't have to accept the jury's sentence, u r right. He can't INCREASE it, but he can DECREASE it. Chances are he won't..but I hope that answers your question. If you are a mommie of children,..listen to:Teach Your Children Well by Crosby Still Nash & Young. Then...Listen to Steppenwolf's song about about The Pusher Man. Most of all..be afraid. Be VERY afraid of computers, cell phones, and the lies teenagers can tell parents. I raised 2 girls a lot like Sarah acted...went so far as to ground one once while she lived at her dad's..and I slept in an Escort outside her dad's apt. to make sure she did not sneak out. Sarah lied to her father, Brendon lied and disobeyed his mother, and the law. Jody has NEVER been in trouble, did not go out to bars, he farmed and that was ALL he did and saw his children every other weekend. His lawyer said it best when he said Jody had a 16 year old mess dumped in his life....and it was not Jody who raised her those 16 years. We all need to pray for all of these families,....period. It was and is in God's hands. He also has a son who needs him...and now will have to wait..becausre his Daddy had to try to save his sister first, and this is how it ended....everyone let him down in the end. And he is more sorry than any of you know....I know, he has told me. Not that those of you quick to judge will care, but he has a son and feels terrible for what he did. It was NOT pre meditated...but I guess it was inevitable, he was determined to save his daughter from a drug problem..and after all legal routes failed...he did what I also would have done had I found a hooded figure in my attic who scared me on my way out. You are a mommy..and he is a daddy, who did his best to care for his daughter. In the end, he laid down his life trying to save hers..and it worked. It is done now...and I hope at least 1 parent and child learned a great lesson here.....


Date: August 21, 2009 11:45 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: shenco20
Comment:

So You're saying that people who are at their end of the rope should be able to shoot someone to just get rid of them. That makes a lot of sense---not. I do believe the blame is suppose to be put on bradely. He's the one that pulled the trigger--no one else. That's why he was at trial. He killed a kid. It doesn't matter if Barker was a unruly kid or was the best.I'll say it one more time--he was a kid. You can TRY to put blame on other people such as the mother, the girl, or the boy but in the end Bradely point blank shot him. And please don't ever try to say again that he didn't know it was the boy or "it had to be done" because those are just ridiculous and crude statements.


Date: August 22, 2009 12:25 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: just_peachy
Comment:

how can you say a loveing and careing parent.. HE KILLED A CHILD. there was a million other ways to handle this.. as a mother of 3 grown children.. i would have never thought of killing another child and trust me there has been some i didnt like..loveing and careing dont go in the same phrase as killing .. and your right.. there is only one man to judge him and thats god.. do you think god wanted him to kill a child?


Date: August 22, 2009 12:38 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: just_peachy
Comment:

as i sit here and read this comments it floors me how one person can say he did the right thing? how would hank feel had his first loves father shot him? wonder what jody would have done had the tables been turned and his daughter was the one killed? everyone keeps sayin he was ruining her life.. did he hold her down and make her smoke dope? seems to me they were 2 teenagers in young love. no matter who you point you finger at... killin was not the right thing to do..and 9 yrs is nothing since this child can never breath again.


Date: August 22, 2009 5:57 AM
Story headline: Bob Wooten: Murder is not a fair response to youth
Comment posted by: disillusioned
Comment:

This is a feeble attempt to right a wrong. I am the unfortunate spouse of one of the much maligned jurors in this case and would be doing my spouse an injustice if I did not speak out. First of all to the comment of the sister: you have your wish. Nightmares are a fact of life now for the 11 jurors who wanted the maximum penalty but had to quote, "make a deal with the devil" to get what they could in the way of justice. A hung jury or a mistrial would have been a larger travesty and these fine people did what they could with what they were given to work with. One juror could not be swayed to the majority and no assistance was provided by the court even after numerous requests.
Now a few words about the jurors. they were PEOPLE doing their civic duty as good citizens and showing up when called. None had an inkling going in what horrors and nightmares were waiting for them that day. With no advanced warning they were thrown into this morass and left to pick up the pieces of their lives when all was said and done. And for what? $30 a day and a feeling of loss and sadness. My loving spouse who is as bright as the sun and full of love was ORDERED not to discuss the things that were eating at her very soul. We have always talked through life's bumps in the road and now that avenue was closed to her. For three days she lived in torment and fear. Now that is doubled. When faced with an unyeilding person, she and her fellow jurors did what they could to see justice done. For this she and they are condemned? Where is the justice in that? Their hearts went out for the losses and the demeanor of each should have been evident. Is none moved by tears anymore? For all those who seek so called justice.... where is the justice in attacking the jury without ascertaining all of the facts?
11 jurors wanted the maximum penalty for MURDER ONE with one abstaining. No amount of forensic evidence, expert testimony, or evidence was convincing to this individual. So what swayed him from his verdict of innocent? The impassioned pleas of these regular moms, dads, grandparents, fellow human beings. For trying to do a very thankless and gruesome task these fine people are reviled and attacked. Their one small comfort is that God has the final judgement. What would YOU have done? Let yea without sin cast the first stone.


Date: August 22, 2009 5:58 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: anguscat
Comment:

The trial should have been held in Harrisonburg. Donna Hockman got life for the same thing. What is the difference here? Shame on the other jurors. They should have stood their ground and let it go to a hung jury and let the judge know what was happening. One man did this? That is shameful. Why didn't someone notify the judge during deliberations about what this man was doing? Where are the backbones of the other 11? If you all had stood your ground and not let this happen, the worst would have been a second trial.....Were you the same 11 people that let one woman remove prayer from school? I think so.


Date: August 22, 2009 6:29 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: schoolboard
Comment:

Actually I think it was 55 men in Philadelphia that removed prayer from school, back in 1789.


Date: August 22, 2009 6:51 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: disillusioned
Comment:

This is a feeble attempt to right a wrong. I am the unfortunate spouse of one of the much maligned jurors in this case and would be doing my spouse an injustice if I did not speak out. First of all to the comment of the sister: you have your wish. Nightmares are a fact of life now for the 11 jurors who wanted the maximum penalty but had to quote, "make a deal with the devil" to get what they could in the way of justice. A hung jury or a mistrial would have been a larger travesty and these fine people did what they could with what they were given to work with. One juror could not be swayed to the majority and no assistance was provided by the court even after numerous requests.
Now a few words about the jurors. they were PEOPLE doing their civic duty as good citizens and showing up when called. None had an inkling going in what horrors and nightmares were waiting for them that day. With no advanced warning they were thrown into this morass and left to pick up the pieces of their lives when all was said and done. And for what? $30 a day and a feeling of loss and sadness. My loving spouse who is as bright as the sun and full of love was ORDERED not to discuss the things that were eating at her very soul. We have always talked through life's bumps in the road and now that avenue was closed to her. For three days she lived in torment and fear. Now that is doubled. When faced with an unyeilding person, she and her fellow jurors did what they could to see justice done. For this she and they are condemned? Where is the justice in that? Their hearts went out for the losses and the demeanor of each should have been evident. Is none moved by tears anymore? For all those who seek so called justice.... where is the justice in attacking the jury without ascertaining all of the facts?
11 jurors wanted the maximum penalty for MURDER ONE with one abstaining. No amount of forensic evidence, expert testimony, or evidence was convincing to this individual. So what swayed him from his verdict of innocent? The impassioned pleas of these regular moms, dads, grandparents, fellow human beings. For trying to do a very thankless and gruesome task these fine people are reviled and attacked. Their one small comfort is that God has the final judgement. What would YOU have done? Let yea without sin cast the first stone.


Date: August 22, 2009 9:26 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: shenandoah
Comment:

12 jurors walked into a room and after deliberation came out with a verdict. This is the system of justice that our country has used since its beginnings. Is the system flawed? Likely yes, one can look at the OJ fiasco and see that their are problems. Is their a better way? I really don't think so. No matter how this could have turned out people would be disgruntled. There is no way to please everyone and all opinions. This trial probably should have been moved outside of Shenandoah County but then how do you get a jury of one's peers? It is perhaps best to accept the verdict and learn a lesson here. Personally I would not have wanted to be a juror on this case, my compassion for all involved would have overwhelmed me and made sentencing impossible. Does anyone actually think that after serving his time that Jody Bradley will ever have a normal life? He will forever be the man that shot and killed his teenage daughter's boyfriend. His daughter must live forever with the choices she herself made. The boyfriend's family will forever live with a grief that no amount of time will completely heal. There are no winners here. Even the judge and jury will be villified for years to come. After all this is the justice system of our land and by the way have you hugged your teenager today?


Date: August 22, 2009 9:35 AM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: vtech09
Comment:

It makes me sick to think that people will stick up for Jody Bradley in this situation. He KNEW it was Brendan Barker in the attic and still shot him. You don’t just shoot a 16-year-old boy for sneaking around. Sure, Sarah should have been a little more cautious about it, but they were young.
It’s common knowledge that when a parent puts more restraint on a teenager then teenagers are going to rebel and go around the rules. That’s exactly what happened. For the people who believe what Jody did was right, just think for a second: you have a sixteen year old who has a boyfriend/girlfriend and you find out that their upstairs doing God knows what. Would you get out a gun and shoot them, or would you call the cops? What if you had a relationship when you were young and ‘in love’ and you were upstairs with your boyfriend/girlfriend when all of a sudden your father comes in and shoots them. It’s messed up that someone would go to the point of killing a teenager when there were other options.
Did Jody ever talk to Brendan’s mother about the situation? I’m sure that if she knew more about what was going on then she would of put a stop to some of the things that was going on. Also if this was such a serious problem that involved drugs and a trespassing violation then Jody should of just called the cops. Parents can try to be as interactive and pry into their children’s business all they want, but they’re still going to find a way to get around them.
Just think about it.


Date: August 22, 2009 9:39 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/Pr0xQcF.2OPDREYvzS5h0qnSlcsbx0j6ODAP#17101
Comment:

How can that one juror say the shooting was accidental? I feel so bad for the others, I know I would have not wanted to be in their shoes, but if you are being blackmailed into a decision then this is mistrial.


Date: August 22, 2009 9:59 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: myviewpoint09
Comment:

I think this was a terrible thing to have happened. Yes, he should have gotten a harder sentence but why didn't the daughter and Barker listen when they were told not to be doing anything together? With the trespass notice against him he should have listened to the father and the court. I believe I read in an earlier article that the county police were called out to the house more than a dozen times because he was trespassing? Why didn't the law do anything about this before it came to murder? I know that it was wrong to shoot to young man but why weren't things stopped before it came to this?


Date: August 22, 2009 10:18 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

well its like this,this is the worst case of injustice that in my 52years of living i have ever heard of .no i dont know any of these people .i didnt know brendon which that doesnt matter i know that human life has more worth than our puny minds can comprehen .you have one woman cathy c thinking justice was served along with good ol boy hank (aka punk)i dont even live in the area anymore i used to for about 7yrs. i know judge hupp is a fair man and a man that has compassion toward people,life no doubt a good man he has sentence me to prison ,but i cause that he had no choice but thats beside the point the point is im sure hes frusterated himself .i am in the process of trying to bring national exsposure to this case i may get it done i may not. but if all you people that are mad about a injustice here think what you can do to change this injustice, ive always thought something was funny about this jury someone and now that someone is the man that has bullied 9 women and why would 2 men allow it of course i know many women that would have stood their ground it would have came out a hung jury,he would have been tried over again oh well its not like he doesnt have the time to wait on round 2 he aint going nowhere period.. this man has flat out lied about who this twisted minded punk murderer is to him he knows him ,you cant sit on a jury and know the person on trial your not even suppose to know any family members yeah GOd is a just God he doesnt allow injustice to go un punished.in his time it all comes to light


Date: August 22, 2009 10:35 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: hokiefan540
Comment:

anguscat,
you have to take into consideration that Donna Hockman commited the crime in Lacy Springs so that would mean that it would fall into the jusrisdication of Rockingham county..Bradly commited the crime in Edinburg so that would mean it falls under the Shenandoah County Jurisdiction. Also the jury had to take into consideration that the boy had been warned multiple times and even had a trespass notice..last I checked that meant that he couldnt come anywhere near his property..so if the kids wanted to see each other then why couldnt they go somewhere else like dinner and a movie? that is nowhere near his property and all of this could have been avoided...if the daughter knew that her father didnt approve of her seeing him at his house then she should have had the brains to say 'hey lets go to your house'or hey lets go to the park or the movies somewhere so that we dont make my father angry.


Date: August 22, 2009 11:32 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: sadiblue
Comment:

People charged with tax evasion will serve more time than Bradley - how sad. When will we all understand A LIFE IS A LIFE, whether you personally know someone that has been taken so brutally or not, the bottom line remains the same: a heart stops beating, family and friends grieve beyond all comprehension, but lawyers still get paid and a criminal who more than likely doesn't comprehend or care about the consequences of his actions will sit behind bars for little to no time. We can keep asking "why didn't she do this?" or "why didn't they just go somewhere else?" - what does it matter? What was Barker hurting? He wasn't stalking her and he wasn't abusing her. They were just two kids and it happens everyday. The only difference is that Bradley didn't "like" Barker, and he took it upon himself to knowingly end a life that can never be brought back.


Date: August 22, 2009 12:21 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: anguscat
Comment:

hokiefan540, you are right of course. This did not happen in Rockingham as Donna's case did. I flew off with a comment before getting emotions in check. I am not judging anyone (re: comment by disillusioned above), and true, not being on the jury, one does not know what happened. But there are consistencies in the two cases which are still unfair in that both people had weapons and stated they would use them, both were done in the heat of the moment but still planned, etc. Something is definitely wrong with the system and it needs to be fixed. All the what if's won't change anything either unfortunately.

To Disillusioned - I hope your spouse is now able to open up and talk about the trial and the worries and concerns and I am sorry if she has been traumatized by this.

Schoolboard: If those 55 men took it out of schools in 1789, then someone needs to check on our mail delivery system.

Again, I am not condemning nor judging, just stating what a lot of people are probably feeling about this situation. And yes, what is done against someone will come back 10 times, so Mr. Bradley will get his due. In time.


Date: August 22, 2009 1:00 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: hokiefan540
Comment:

Justice was served. People may think that it is wrong that he is only getting 9 years, but the kid was warned by police and by a trespass notice..that means the kid was not welcomed in or at his house..yes it was wrong that he took his life but they should have used some kind of common sense.


Date: August 22, 2009 2:29 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Jean
Comment:

Before you can Judge anyone, you must know the facts. 12 Jurors had to make a decision based on facts. Not what their heart said but straight facts. The whole situation is very very disturbing. There was no blackmail in the jury room, thats a ridiculous thought. If a person can't agree with everyone else then they should have stood up and been an adult and said I'm sorry but I can't do this, we have to come up with a second option. Each person in the jury room was told to do what they felt was right, based on facts. Just FACTS. I can assure you total strangers cried and are very ill over this case. Even if Mr. Bradley received 40 years, Brendon still wouldn't be here. Know the facts before you voice your opinion.


Date: August 22, 2009 2:30 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Jean
Comment:

Thank you, I agree.


Date: August 22, 2009 2:31 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Jean
Comment:

One Juror feels they were blackmailed. Trying to justify her part in agreeing with the outcome so she could sleep better. Know the facts.


Date: August 22, 2009 2:56 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Enough
Comment:

Sarah was not allowed to leave the house.


Date: August 22, 2009 3:29 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: Enough
Comment:

Do not comment on a situation you know nothing about.


Date: August 22, 2009 4:45 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

I am no lawyer, but read a lot of true crime books, watch lots of Courtroom TV , Nancy Grace etc. And I'm kinda thinking that such a slanderous statement from 1 juror speaking for 10 more, and saying what she has....in my mind it seems much like a case I once saw which ended up being called a mistrial......but maybe I'm wrong. But I surely would not have wanted 1 woman to come out and say she was speaking for me too when she said they were blackmailed. I have alwqays associated that word with money, or bribes. I'm thinking Judge Hupp, who repeatedly gave them chances to NOT come to agreement with fellow jurors..and then polled them ONE BY ONE.....is probably NOT going to be too happy with this article...or woman.


Date: August 22, 2009 6:22 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

Now that it comes to light that one juror bullied the others I wonder if Judge Hupp can set aside the verdict and order a new trial? I certainly hope so, because as it is this is a gross miscarriage of justice that needs to be corrected by any legal means possible.


Date: August 22, 2009 6:56 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/63f.QZB514FIz6lns3u10KnPV0Lv4c5c#91441
Comment:

if its one of your children would you still feel the same?


Date: August 22, 2009 8:00 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

Hi might have had to order a new trial for a hung jury as the commonwealth's Attorney would surely have insisted on it with a HUNG jury. I do not think he can make the Bradley family PAY for a new trial....this had to have been admitted to on VERDICT NIGHT. It's too late now. You do not get a chance to see people are mad at you and change your mind about your verdict and sentence, even I know that. They had MORE than one chance to complain of this supposed man, and they chose NOT to take it. It's too late to turn back now. Both sides presented their cases excellently, and the jury made their decision. As I said before, it is DONE. All I can see from my research on here is a mistrial that would set him free, or the original sentence being given Nov 18th. I am sure there will be a heated debate, and those who chose to undo all the work that all 12 had dobne, will undoubtedly be in trouble. The instructions were very, very clear. And those of us who were on the defense side should not have to sit again in all those hours both sides had to..but 1 side was paying for their case. It saddens me 1 person has tried to give a bad name to a jury who worked so hard to come up with a verdict. As I have from the start..I just continue to pray for all, and am relieved for the jury to not have to sit all those hours again debating this very sad case for ALL concerned.........and shame on the one or two who have created this article to be written.


Date: August 22, 2009 11:05 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: justice for all
Comment:

So you feel that two children made the wrong decision and the adult was justified in his actions? Bradley had many options available that night, he CHOSE to murder someone, there was no justification for that. He knew that Brendon Barker was in the attic with his daughter. He blocked the door, went and got a gun and flashlight, opened the door and pushed his daughter out of the way, hunted Brendon down, shined the flashlight on him and shot him in the forehead. Now tell me how the two kids were to blame! Life is about choices and when Bradley hunted him down he made the choice to murder Brendon. He has to live with the consequences of his actions, he also needs to apologize to Brendon's family and his own daughter for his actions, and accept responsibility for murder. I have to believe that there is a special place in hell for people like Jody Bradley, people who murder unarmed people without remorse. Bradley testified that he shot an intruder because he was protecting his family--hmmm let's think about that one--"his family--Sarah" was in the attic! How concerned was he about her when he blocked her in the attic also, and then shot her boyfriend in front of her. It's easy to say these teens should've made better decisions on being at Sarah's house--but it was her house too. And how many of us, when we were their age, made choices that we shouldn't have made because we were in love? Only one person is to blame for the murder of Brendon Barker and that is Jody Bradley. Nothing can change that fact!!


Date: August 22, 2009 11:27 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

it can be declared a mistrial ,when it comes out this man knows the punk or the family,he shouldnt have been on the jury at all. any decent human being can tell its a tainted jury..you can bet this will be looked in to further than this debate on line,mark my word


Date: August 23, 2009 9:51 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: schoolboard
Comment:

A juror can be removed during deliberations for misconduct, but you cannot change things after the trial, unless to let the man go free PERMANENTLY. The U.S. Constitution does not allow for a man to be convicted and sentenced for the same crime twice, because of double jeopardy. This is over.

P.S. to Anguscat: In the 1860s, the Constitution was also changed to give blacks equal protection under the law. Just because it took the "mail delivery system" a long time to get that one correct with Brown v. Board of Education, does not mean it is not the law of our land. If you want the official sanctioning of one religion in our schools or anyplace else by our government, you are perfectly free to call for a constitutional amendment to fix things to your liking.


Date: August 23, 2009 10:30 AM
Story headline: Daughter says she didn't believe father would carry out his threats
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/Pr0xQcF.2OPDREYvzS5h0qnSlcsbx0j6ODAP#17101
Comment:

Cathy c,
You say he did everything he was legally told to do. I assume this means the no trespassing notice, and, o wait? He was legally given a murder notice with that? How can you say he did everything he was told to do legally? When did they start handing out those murder certificates? He was not startled, whether the kid was wearing a hood or not. He was fully prepared to kill this boy, he suspected it was him in the house when he blocked the door and went for his gun. Legally he wasn't even supposed to use that firearm, since he was held in commission of a felony. I don't even know what that felony would be, but it raises more red flags in my head as to what type of person this man is.


Date: August 23, 2009 11:44 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

Speaking from a friend of the Bradley's..I cam assure you theyknew no one. In this small town we may know people by faces..like when you work in 7/11 and it seems EVERYONE knows you..but only by name and look. It is still stunning to kme that any juror would speak in such a manner after such a serious case...and while I am no lawyer...I am sure that both lawyers in this case know exactly what can happen now. I will wait to see the outcome, but I know Jody cannot be tried again, or his family have to pay for another trial..period. Once was hard enough for all involved, and this article and the word blackmail sound really, really bad...I don't hear 10 other jurors affirming it either. It is done everyone..it is done.


Date: August 23, 2009 11:47 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

Enough...my heart makes me wonder if we know each other. And while Sarah was not allowed out...Brendon was not allowed in. That is the bottom line in all of what happened in the end. Had both tenns obeyed their parents and trespass notice, Brendon would still be here. AS much as that might hurt...it's the truth.


Date: August 23, 2009 7:18 PM
Story headline: Bob Wooten: Murder is not a fair response to youth
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

A 16 year old child does not have the judgment of, say, a 48 year old man. The boy was invited to the home by a resident of the home who assured him that things would be OK. He was shot down in cold blood for the transgression of wanting to engage in courtship with a girl his own age, something that is natural and human. It may upset some of the high minded out there that the boy was caught on occasion with his "pants down" but if we start gunning down every child who engages in the normal, natural act of communing with the opposite sex then things are going to get mighty bloody.
If some of the jurors didn't agree with the sentence they should have put there foot down and stood their ground, mistrial be damned. There would have been another trial and maybe justice would have been done.
There are two things I hope for: one, this case goes "national" and people are outraged. Two, Brendon's mother gets a "good" lawyer and sues the hell out of Mr. Bradley, preferably in a "fair" venue like Richmond or Fairfax, and makes sure that when he walks out of prison in less than 10 years he won't have much to come home to.


Date: August 23, 2009 7:46 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: justice for all
Comment:

Yes, these two teens did not obey their parents but what a fine example Jody Bradley set! He didn't obey the law--murder is not allowed by law. You can spin it anyway you want but Jody Bradley committed murder! Brendon Barker violated a no trepassing notice, he should not have had to lose his life for that! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see who's at fault.


Date: August 24, 2009 12:07 AM
Story headline: Jury deliberations will resume today
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

by baracading them in while you go get your weapon! If he truly thought brendon was an intruder then why did he lock his daughter in there with the intruder? Get real Cathy!


Date: August 24, 2009 9:18 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: just_peachy
Comment:

did anyone look at the article 2 below this one.. a man will serve 14 yrs for sexual battery.. jody only got 12 for murder..how does that seem right. not that im sayin either crime was ok.. they both should rot..


Date: August 24, 2009 1:56 PM
Story headline: *Doctor says Slater incompetent to stand trial
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

So here's my question. If he is incompitent to stand trial because he can't understand his actions, do you allow him to go free? Or do you lock him up in a mental hospital so he is not a danger to himself or anyone else.


Date: August 24, 2009 8:38 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Terry
Comment:

It really doesnt matter who is to blame. The fact is Brendon was a child. Jody is an adult. He committed murder. For all of you cold hearted people out there who think it is even remotely Brendons fault I feel sorry for you. All children make mistakes. We do not own our children. I do not know very many young boys who are in love that would not have done the same thing.We can cast blame at Brendon or his parents or Sarah or the jury but the fact is Jody took Brendons life. He murdered a child. Someones son, someones brother, someones friend. He knew exacally what he was doing. It is very sad that he will be getting out of jail and he will be able to continue his life while Brendon doesnt get the chance. I am sure he would not have like any boy Sarah would have dated. The murder was pointless...I just wish the community would stop pointing fingers at one another and have compassion for Brendons family. Put yourself in thier shoes. Imagine how they feel. Wait...none of us can even pretend that we know how they feel. Nothing really matters now except the fact is Jody murdered Brendon. Those are the facts. I am just glad that I believe in a God that is holding him tightly and taking care of him for his mother.


Date: August 25, 2009 9:01 AM
Story headline: Slater found incompetent to stand trial
Comment posted by: Linda Foley
Comment:

What trial? He has already confessed and the evidence is overwhelming against him. Put him in jail for the rest of his life THEN get him help.
While this solution may sound over simplified, I am more concerned about his competency to ever rejoin society than his competency to stand trial.


Date: August 25, 2009 9:43 AM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: Kelly77
Comment:

Brendon Barker was my cousin and I am outraged that this injustice happened. Not only did Janeen Johannson and Gene Barker lose a son, they now have to suffere the injustice of their son's murderer going free after nine years! The Judge and Jury should be ashamed of themselves; the Jury for the sentencing reccomendation and the judge for going along with that reccomendation instead of overruling it and granting a harsher judgment. It is quite transparent that justice was not served for Brendon's murder. Their only son killed at sixteen. I remember the cute kid on the beach loving the sun, beach and ocean. A sweet kid who didn't choose to leave this world but was taken from it before he entered the prime of his life. I hope JLB burns in hell.

And by the way, regardless of double jepordy, the sentencing CAN BE APPEALED. The Prosecutor's office can APPEAL this sentencing and ask for a new one. Should there be any justice in this world, this will be the first thing the Prosecutor works on this week. APPEAL! APPEAL! He deserves LIFE IN PRISON.


Date: August 25, 2009 11:14 AM
Story headline: Slater found incompetent to stand trial
Comment posted by: Steve
Comment:

This is probably a defense tactic to avoid the death penalty for their client. He's gonna be locked up either in prison or a mental institute for a long time, if not forever. Too bad there may not be punitive justice for the victim's families though...but I don't think he will end on the streets any time in the near future.

Not sure if they can wait until he is competent and try him then or not...perhaps an attorney reading this can enlighten us on what the future holds for him.


Date: August 25, 2009 11:15 AM
Story headline: *Doctor says Slater incompetent to stand trial
Comment posted by: Steve
Comment:

This is probably a defense tactic to avoid the death penalty for their client. He's gonna be locked up either in prison or a mental institute for a long time, if not forever. Too bad there may not be punitive justice for the victim's families though...but I don't think he will end up on the streets any time in the near future.

Not sure if they can wait until he is competent and try him then or not...perhaps an attorney reading this can enlighten us on what the future holds for him.


Date: August 25, 2009 2:34 PM
Story headline: Some jurors feel sentence too light
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

yeah as sad as it is to know , he cant be tried again thats fact on this earth in that court .but he still will answer to a higher court one day and thats fact. life in prison will be hard on him and he really deserves that, to fight for basic space and air to breath.i shouldnt feel the way i do i suppose but ,it really makes sick that this was the outcome of such a senseless crime.this boy didnt deserve this i know in my heart this man killed this boy in cold blood .now the jury has spoken and yes thats a done deal .but no its not a done deal,he will answer to another court one day as we all will .but there is really a such thing as prison justice and he falls right in the group that has the spot light on them and i hope the coward can take whats in store for him ,instead of hiding from it in a hole ,either way he has to do 10 years,but we aint promised tomorrow ,we are only a heart beat from judgement all of us .my prayers are with the boys family and girl friend ,i guess im suppose to pray for all .i cant, i wish hard time on the murderer


Date: August 26, 2009 12:03 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: shenandoah
Comment:

This article leaves even more questions about the choices everyone made. If Bradley was such a loose cannon why wasn't more attention paid to the threats that he made? If an ex-wife had to "tiptoe" around this man then why was the daughter allowed to even live there? Reading this article makes one think that Bradley was a dangerous man with his own addictions and not competent enough to raise a child whom he had only the briefest of contact with throughout her life. The ex wife being a police officer makes this tragedy even more ludicrous. Having had first hand experience with Mr. Bradley and his temper and a law enforcement background why wasn't more attention paid to the threats and why were the kids not warned of the danger of violating the trespass? I realize the article is showing a very slanted viewpoint but the questions still remain about how many people involved could have stepped in to help avert this young man's death. It is also very sad to know that the family is at odds although it sounds as though the younger child does at least have some memory of a genuine father. Perhaps the best way to help these children would be for everyone involved to admit to some culpability in the outcome, forgive one another, learn from the mistakes made and move forward as a family and a community united to see that something like this never happens again...


Date: August 26, 2009 12:20 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

THANK YOU...Dylan wants to see his father and has once


Date: August 26, 2009 12:33 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: kaisha
Comment:

The day of the shooting, in that house, who was the adult in the situation? Everyone knows it's wrong to shoot and kill. I'm tired of hearing people sticking up for the father he knew what he was getting ready to do that day. He's a grown man. There might be more to this story but I would think that if there was anything else it would have come out already especially in the trial. Bottom line is it's wrong to kill someone, that doesn't just go against state and fed. law that goes against a higher power.


Date: August 26, 2009 12:53 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: ledger
Comment:

sounds like the boy has written the JERK off,thats his own words ms cathy c accept others opinion of the worthless piece of ....


Date: August 26, 2009 2:00 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: Winona
Comment:

If the restraining order was the issue for defense, why didn't he call the police while he had the "intruder" barricaded in the attic? He premeditated the whole thing and the world has lost a wonderful young man!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Bradley has GREATLY impacted so many people -- not only his family and Brendon's family, but their friends and classmates and all those who loved and knew Brendon and love and know Sarah. Shame on everyone who makes excuses for this man!!!!!!!!!!


Date: August 26, 2009 2:46 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: ledger
Comment:

This is the 3rd comment that i have submitted maybe it will be printed .The 3 people that know this piece of .... has spoken.The girl sara has said that his family has disowed her. sara thank the lord above that these people wont be a part of your life any longer.Blood is thicker than water,but come on what their blood did was senseless and their is no excuse.its ashame the ex-wife didnt do this to this coward long ago when he defied a no trespass order.The daughter said it was jealousy and a lack of attention .from who ,her a young daughter ,.kids are not companions for us our wives and girlfriends are suppose to be that. The man has made a mockery out of our system,with the help of a jury that didnt have the back bone it takes to do whats right ,because a few couldnt stand against one hold out .what was more important at that moment in your lives ?? what ever it was ,it wasnt justice for this young boy ???thats crazy this sentence doesnt fit the crime .a 17 yro was sentenced to 7 yrs robbery yesterday in warren county,but thats the fairness of judge hupp to make the boy do a little hard time ,but also give him a chance to grow up and mature and do something with life.if this boy would have been tried by a jury he would have recieved more time than jody boy, smart on his part to take a bench trial.But then again if ol jody had a bench trial we all would be some what satisfied with the punishment ,its done but this piece of .... has losted a lot more than we can see right now.... he needs to pay every red cent to this mother and father in the civil suit.im sure a jury will see it right during that trial.and when he gets out ,if he does he has to fork over his money every week the rest of his life,even starting with the 20 cent an hour job in prison .i hope its slow and painful on him....


Date: August 26, 2009 2:48 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: tannerygirl
Comment:

Ok first of all if Jody was soo mean and you had to tiptoe around him why in the world would you send your daughter to live with him? The mother says Sarah is not a wild child well then why couldn't she handle her? Now they are trying their hardest to dig up things Jody MAY have done in the past to make him look bad. Im sure we all have done things in our younger years that we do not want our kids to do, just because someone MAY have tried things early in life does not mean we are hypocrites for not wanting our children to follow our foot steps. Now Sarah is saying she is afraid of her father and thats crazy he was protecting her if he did not love her he would not have cared that her grades were droping and wouldn't have been concerned she was doing drugs. No I don't think Jody should have shot the boy but I also feel he was driven to do it, he turned to so many people for help and got no where. I think he should have beat his butt good for him instead of killing him though. This is a very bad situation, if only the Barker family would have done more to four fill Jody's wishes of the boy to stay away from his daughter, a man don't just call someone and make that sort of threat for someone not to take him serious. The family should have done more to keep the boy away. Sarah instead of looking at her father soo bad saying she's afraid of him needs to look at why he is setting behind bars if she would have listened to him instead of going against him sneaking the boy in this would have NEVER happened and now for her to say she's scared of him is awful Jody loved her with all his heart. It's not like Jody is a free man he will be behind bars for at least 12yrs.


Date: August 26, 2009 4:01 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: love my grandkids
Comment:

I dont agree that if there were more to this story it would have came out!!! If thats the case then why are they tryin to dig up dirt on Jody??????As personally knowin Jody for 40years,hes not at all the bad,crazy person everyone wants him to be!!!!!Jody is as normal as you or anyone else!!!All the boy did was farm and work hard all his life!!I agree if they knew he was a bad person and was jealous and didnt want an animal or anything to be close to Sarah why was she aloud to live with him??As for custody the mother always seems to get that, unless shes rotten to the core!!!That would be the only reason most men get thier children or the mother just walks out!!!He always had visitation and the mother went back a second time ,so if it was that bad i would not have went back for any reason,especially pregnant!!All i would want is safety for my kids and if he was what they are tryin to say that would not be safety!!!As for the grandmother disowning her has Sarah tried to make sure that is true??If it is would you see why,its been alot said about the family and all!!!!All of Jodys family are good people and would not harm anyone,By the way i havent seen or heard of any articles from that family,I havent heard them try to run anyone in the ground not even Brendon, no matter whos fault they may think it was!!!!until people know what really happened why dont everyone just keep thier mouth shut!!!Opions are like........everyone has one and they dont mean....!!!!!!!so stop all the bull of guessing!!


Date: August 26, 2009 4:15 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

That has to be the most ignorant statement I've heard yet. If he was trying to protect her why did he barracade her in with him. No matter what excuse you use to justify what he did, it still sounds plain stupid. The daughter witnessed her father shoot her boyfriend in the head in the same room she was in. She has the right to say whatever she wants.


Date: August 26, 2009 4:36 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: TiffanyF
Comment:

First of all, I imagine Mr. Bradley was frustrated with the situation, there is no doubt in my mind that he was...but what parent hasn't had to deal with a similar situation? My kids often hung around with people, snuck out, had people snuck in, etc. I was frustrated and at my wits end on MANY occasions. It's what teenagers do! Did I ever once consider killing the bad influence boy who I did not like? NO!!!! Never crossed my mind! And that's the difference. A reasonable and logical person wouldn't go to the extremes that Mr. Bradley did!

As far as the ex-wife saying all this stuff now. Just because an ex-wife has to tip-toe around an ex husband, doesn't mean the child has the same issue with her father Lets remember here, Sarah was not the one who was killed, Brendan was. Doesn't necassarly mean Sarah was ever in danger just because of the issues with the ex, although I understand now why she is fearful.

Furthermore, wasn't the daughter just as much of a problem as Brendan? Didn't she allow him into the residence when she knew her father didn't want him there? Yes, she did. It would be one thing if Brendan was the sole problem in the situation and Sarah felt to be in danger of him. But that wasn't the case. She was just a responsible for him coming in the home, if not more than Brendan himself. Maybe Bradley should have been more pro-active in reguards to her.

I also think it's important to note, that when a trespassing order is placed, if a household member invites that person into the home, the trepassing paper becomes void. The can and does include juvenilles inviting the person in.

Bottom line. As parents, we have all been frustrated with our children and the choices they make. However, we didn't shoot and kill the "problems".


Date: August 26, 2009 4:53 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

you think you know EVERYTHING. you don't talk to dylan or the family so stop act like you know whats going on.


Date: August 26, 2009 6:23 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: RIP BMB
Comment:

being a friend of sarah I completely understand why she is upset about the sentencing of her dad, how can you just kill somebody an only get 9 years for murder? when he saw brendon in his house why couldn't he just call the police an let them handle it? instead of shooting a innocent 16 yr old boy an taking the life of a great person, a great friend. sarah was not a wild child, so some of you who keep saying "if she wasnt such a wild child then how come she was sent to live with her father?". she could have fun just sitting in the house talking. some of you are acting like you knew them but you really dont. your just reading a newspaper an going off of that. sarah has told me stories of her father an they werent good. I just think his sentencing should have been more then just 9 years for murder an 3 years for having a firearm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well after all when he does get out, there are going to be so many people still angry about what happened. I feel real sorry for Brendon's family.


Date: August 26, 2009 9:24 PM
Story headline: Jury deliberations will resume today
Comment posted by: ledger
Comment:

i guess blondedisaster91,told you!didnt she? who are you the aunt or the girlfriend? who ever you are? you need to look in your heart and asked your self what if it was my son ?? and come on be honest with yourself cause we dont buy any of the bull .... that you keep dishing out and no one but you and the sorry few that thinks he was justified ,can travel and spend your money and time to go visit this loser....and cry each other a river cuz he will get his,I HOPE THAT HIS NAME AND CRIME GETS TOLD QUICK ONCE HES IN D.O.C AND THEN LET THE GAMES BEGIN !!!!!!AND FOR ANY ONE INTERESTED THERE IS A WEB SITE DOC AND HAS INMATE LOCATOR ON IT TO KNOW WHERE THIS LOSER IS AT ALL TIMES....


Date: August 26, 2009 9:37 PM
Story headline: Jody Lynn Bradley found guilty in shooting death of 16-year-old
Comment posted by: ledger
Comment:

I WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SICK MINDED TO HAVE KILL THE KID YOU MUST BE THE MOTHER ,KIN SOMEHOW ALL OF YOU STAND OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB YOU ARE MESSED UP WITH YOUR THINKING HE WAS WRONG ,DONT CONDONE OR MAKE EXCUSE FOR THE LOSER


Date: August 27, 2009 12:45 AM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: mommyhas2_2luv
Comment:

What was this jury thinking,(Bradley) should have gotten the Death penatly, instead he gets a slap on the wrist and the jury basically says its okay to shoot someone. This probably encourages other losers like(Bradley) to shoot someone, hey he got off easy.

I want to send my support and condolences out to the (Barker Family & Sarah) I can only imagine the pain and suffering you are going through because of this A**. He deserves pain and suffering and I pray to god that he gets what he deserves.

Not one of those Jurors spoke up for (Brendon), his voice was taken, by an inhuman animal, they needed to give (brendon) a voice, speak for him and for his family, but they coward... If it matters, I will speak out and say that justice and the system have failed one again to punish the true criminals who deserve the death penatly. (Bradley) doesn't deserve to sit behind bars... He deserves much more than that.

All I know is that god will repremand him, and punish him for taking a childs life who had his entire world infront of him. If someone doesn't speak up against this killer and protect our children the who will, I think he will kill again, its like a dog with the taste of blood, it comes back for more... I think (Bradley) will be a threat to society. He is a killer. May peace come to the (Barker Families Hearts) know that (Brendon) is in a better place and we will all join him one day, God has made him someones Gaurdian Angel.


Date: August 27, 2009 9:04 AM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: shenandoah
Comment:

It's interesting to hear from the hold-out juror's point of view, however inflammatory. His own experiences seem to have weighed heavily on his mind. I don't think his decision is going to win him too many friends in Shenandoah County, however, he is entitled to his own interpretation of the evidence. The article leads me to believe that some of the jurors had already decided the case without any debate and a dissenting opinion was neither welcome or wanted. I suppose we will never really know what was in Jody Bradley's mind the day of the shooting and as for his demeanor I couldn't begin to imagine what he feels. I seriously doubt that he doesn't regret his actions. I hope that some of his family and friends come forward to be interviewed to give an account on his behalf. People make bad choices everyday and thankfully most of us do not have to pay for them with our lives or our freedom.


Date: August 27, 2009 9:26 AM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

Yeah, he's right that more should go into the jury selection process. They need to weed out people who think it's OK to shoot unarmed, cowering children in the face. I don't know how some people can look themselves in the mirror.


Date: August 27, 2009 10:50 AM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

I spoke with Susan Bradley 2 or 3 days after the accident, hoping to speak to Sarah & Dylan...I alo know Dylan has written to his father on occasion...until recently. As for how Jody appears to those of you who don't know him, he has a very kind heart, and at one time I was lucky enough to have been a part of he & his children's lives on the family farm for 3 years. I sat through this, and not across the street at the cafe. I would not comment if I did not know Susan and the children too. I wanted to reach out to Sarah, but she was not available. Again I wish to say that I still am praying for every family involved.


Date: August 27, 2009 11:44 AM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: ledger
Comment:

whats the point in making a comment ,if your going to censure it???the man used this trial as a outlet for some type of unfinished pain he was feeling about his own child. she was your baby though right same as this boy not yet a man was some ones baby.you sir shouldnt have sit on this jury. and you know this now right .you never did address the issue if you knew this piece of .... but you wont admit that now will you


Date: August 27, 2009 11:57 AM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: Cathy C
Comment:

I will never give an interview, but I can assure even though Jody did not know it was Brendon, I speak with him, and I know his sorrow & pain. He would NEVER intentionally hurt his mother who is a HUGE part of his life. I know Jody well, and his demeanor is just how he is on the outside. To see him with his children when they were young...a happier man I never saw. This is a man who could not work indoors..and for him jail is even worse than it is for many, he wants to be in his fields working for his family..including his children. This paper does not seem to want to print that when i try to reply he is very different than he appears when you see him when he's being serious..so am I. Being deaf in 1 ear I truly believe has caused a lot of that affect. In no way does he feel cold toward Brendon's family, and all he has hurt. Especially his family including his children. They were and still are his life in his heart. He also has a son, this was all just a horrible tragedy, and I truly feel he was let down by society. I work with recovering addicts online..and he had no idea what to do with the mess that was given to him to try to fix. I wish that she had been able to be put in treatment....that would have been a start. Addiction is never just suddenly gone..u work every day to stay clean. I hope that those of you condemning Jody never really have to know what it is to lose a child to an overdose as this poor juror has. Only by the grace of God do we get a chance to straighten our lives out..and thankfully Sarah now has that chance and looks good to me. I pray for all who deal with this in your life, our children have access to so much we not even know, it is scary. I also am very sorry any juror has been threatened...that is very sad and changes my opinion of the county where I live now.


Date: August 27, 2009 12:19 PM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: 91664
Comment:

Absolutely none of this is going to bring Brendon Barker back. I'm reasonably sure that no two people are more singularly aware of this than the Janine and Jimmie Johansson. The constant finger pointing, threatening and airing of dirty laundry is only making deeper the significant wound that has been left for the entire community to deal with. Spend five minutes speaking to any teenager who is aware of the situation and you will hear in their voices just exactly what was taken from ALL of our children that day - their sense of security. As a COMMUNITY, we should be most concerned about how to best prevent this from ever happening again - to anyone's child - to anyone's family.

Opining that one person knows better than the law of the land and can hold themselves above it historically has rarely resulted in anything less than tragedy. One child is dead, the lives of two families are in shambles and our community is fractured. This surely meets the standard of tragedy for me. The greater tragedy will be if we as COMMUNITY continue to spit and spare amongst ourselves, rather than doing our level best to direct our energies toward healing for everyone involved.


Date: August 27, 2009 1:31 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: wtf
Comment:

All i would like to say and ask everyone who has followed and read this story is all of you have been 16 yrs old or have a child who has been 16 yrs old. You and your children at that age have been somewhere you should not have been. How would it feel to have someone knock on your door and tell you your son or daughter was shot and killed. I really would like everyone to really think about that WHAT IF THAT WAS YOU OR YOUR SON OR YOUR DAUGHTER? Would everyone that supports Mr. Bradley feel the same if that was your son or daughter?

And if you say you would feel the same you would be lying through your teeth! I do not know Mr. Bradley nor am i saying he was a bad person before this incident. But if someone knocked on your door and told you that your son or daughter was shot and killed how would you react! I dont think you would say my son or daughter deserved to die b/c they were somewhere they shouldnt have been. So just remember to think what your saying before you say it b/c this situation could one day be in your court. So I will leave with a sorry for your loss the Barker family had to suffer and may the lord be with you.


Date: August 27, 2009 4:06 PM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

the fact that a juror is threatened upsets you? But the fact that a grown man killed a 16 year old child dosn't? thats kinda odd


Date: August 27, 2009 10:42 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: love my grandkids
Comment:

I agree why dont people stop pointing fingures and keep the mouths shut!!!!!!EVERYONE SAYING GOD WILL DO THIS AND THAT ARE ONLY HYPOCRITS,becuase only GOD can and will do what is rite no one in this world but him knows what he will do and thats only judging.THOW SHALL NOT JUDGE,so let both families go on and try to get over all the pain including Jody,im sure he is paying dearly for what has happened.Im praying for all involved,no matter what or whos to blame only one man can judge,and thats none of us.


Date: August 27, 2009 11:07 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: Blondedisaster91
Comment:

How do you live with yourself constantly defending this man?
He KILLED A CHILD!!!!!!!!! and why would anyone want to talk to you about anything so you can preach about how he didn't know it was brendon & he did it out of love .what a lie. In my opionon the only person jody bradley loves is jody bradley!


Date: August 28, 2009 9:41 AM
Story headline: Disbanded squad hopes to sit down with town, county
Comment posted by: 4volunteers
Comment:

My hat is off to Mr. Mowery and all of the volunteers at Strasburg Rescue Squad. This group of volunteers appears to be working hard to formulate a plan and re-group; all of the things that the county has asked for up until this point. Mr. Mowery is quoted as saying "we want to get out and help the community." What a great attitude considering all of the negative things that were said about them by county reports-they still want to help.

If the Strasburg Rescue Squad provides all of the information listed above and is still not allow to run calls, what a sad situation for the people of Strasburg. For the people of Strasburg not to have the Strasburg Rescue Squad members to assist them in need when others are already on a call is very sad.

We have had these members go through months of being told they are not needed when clearly that is not the case considering the LONG runs to the hospital Mr. Yew is now noticing. Wouldn't it be great for the county to know that there is an ambulance still in Strasburg and ready to respond if another call comes in...Oh wait! There is 3 ambulances in Strasburg ready to answer calls and the county states they are not needed-that doesn't make sense.

It appears that some of the supervisors are ready to speed up the process of gettting Strasburg Rescue Squad up and running quickly; wonderful job Mr. Morris and Mr. Hensley. I am sure that this last ditch effort to 'clean-up' your record and race to reclaim your supervisor seat will be remembered when I go to the polls.


Date: August 28, 2009 1:47 PM
Story headline: Presgraves set to enter guilty plea today
Comment posted by: Larry Signor
Comment:

Where is the justice here?


Date: August 31, 2009 4:22 PM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: RIP BMB
Comment:

All I have to say is if he appeal's it an gets a lighter sentence there is something seriously wrong with our court system!!!! 9 year's is nothing, he should have got more or death. Basicially our system is saying it's alright to shoot a innocent person an only get a light sentence.


Date: August 31, 2009 9:09 PM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: Patriot
Comment:

Innocent???? He was violating a trespassing order. He knew he was violating it, Bradley's daughter knew he was violating it. Bradley even said he would shoot him if he caught him there. Personally, I probably would have just beat the crap out of the kid if I'd caught him, but hey, to each his own. I believe a man has a right to protect his children and his property. I hope the appeal gets his sentence lowered.


Date: August 31, 2009 10:15 PM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: just_peachy
Comment:

patriot.. how in the world could you want a man that shot and killed a child to get a lower sentence? you must not have children.. now i agree that the child shouldnt have been there that night, but still gives NO MAN the right to take anothers life..lets not forget he was a invited guest by the daughter.. guess you were never young and in love either or you would understand what it is like to want to be with the one you think you love at such a young age...


Date: September 1, 2009 1:05 AM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: claymore
Comment:

Sure, the kid was guilty of trespassing. He was guilty of a Class I Misdemeanor according to the Code of Virginia; the same type of crime as shoplifting a pack of gum from Food Lion.

So I guess it's okay for the manager of Food Lion to shoot a child in the head at near point blank range the next time one of them steals a pack of gum. According to your way of thinking all he has to do is prove that he was protecting his business.

I say let the punishment fit the crime even though in this case it doesn't. He should never see the light of day again.

People in prison love those who abuse or kill children. I can't wait to see what happens to him in prison, even though he won't be there long enough.


Date: September 1, 2009 5:31 PM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: scout/3
Comment:

What about the responsibilities of everyone else? If I was the parent of a young man who someone had threaten to kill. I would do my best to keep him away from them, as I am sure they did...but some of the blame would be mine.

What about the young lady? Why would she invite someone over when your father, who you now say you were so frighten of, had threaten to kill. Is she not also responsible, does she not share in the blame?

What about the young lady's mother? She has allot to say now about what a bad parent Mr. Bradley was. Why did she leave her there, does not some of the blame go there?

I would think so.


Date: September 3, 2009 9:26 AM
Story headline: Hold-out juror defends stance
Comment posted by: 9glock19
Comment:

I am not condoning what happened. I think a good butt whippin' would have been sufficient. However, kids today ignore the rules and sometimes when that happens you pay. If anything good can come out of this maybe it will serve as a reminder to obey your parents, don't do drugs, and live a straight life. You can still have a great time and it makes life a lot better. My prayers go out to both families.


Date: September 3, 2009 6:58 PM
Story headline: Murderer's children, ex-wife outraged over light sentence
Comment posted by: smitty
Comment:

I lived in Shenandoah county for over 20 years and due to my occupation i was frequently in court there.I saw misjustice there all the time,i saw police with tears in their eyes they were so mad about the verdicts in the trials they were involved in.I saw people who were guilty as sin get away with crimes and walk out smiling knowing they beat the system.Your counties judges(and recently retired ones)are so spineless its disgusting.Long story short.....IN SHENANDOAH COUNTY YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER(and a whole lot more as well).I am happy to live now in a place where justice is served,not abused.


Date: September 4, 2009 10:17 AM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: anglhrtdvlmnd
Comment:

Claymore, you are right about people in prison loving anyone who abuses or hurts children and as the sentance stands he will not be there very long. I truely believe that the ones in prison he needs to be scared of will make him pay for how ever long he is there. Granted whatever "love" they show him will in no way be enough to make up for what he did, but they will have fun doing it.

We are taught at an early age that we shoudl trust in our justice system from beginning to end. I wonder how the children that knew Brendon and Sarah will ever find a way to trust the judicial system after this farce of a sentance??


Date: September 25, 2009 10:45 AM
Story headline: Division won't honor perfect attendance
Comment posted by: motherof1
Comment:

I think this is a wonderful idea. I have a daughter that attends Shenandoah County Public Schools. She has a significant health problem that requires a lot of medical attention and sometimes hospitalization. I don't think it is fair for her to not receive an award because of her health issues. There are many other children out there in the same situation. This is a good move for the school system!!


Date: October 31, 2009 9:08 AM
Story headline: Hrbek says Carter leaked closed session information
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/KcJs_PVz0Yy5IhH6MwM62PJlDTFR0RpZEA--#bc4ed
Comment:

once again, the town is working with their eyes closed.Every project that would be beneficial (to the citizens of Warren County and the Town ) seems to get bogged down by power plays by a few. Who in their right mind turns down jobs and potential revenue in this economy? My family bought a home here in 1993, with the hope of seeing a 66 interchange, along with the development that comes with it, the widening of Happy Creek Rd and other improvements. My husband is being laid off on the 7th of Nov, and my jobs ends on the 13th. WE NEED JOBS IN THIS COUNTY. PERHAPS EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT SHOULD GO PUBLIC AND ALL CORRESPONDENCE ASSOCIATED WITH SAME SHOULD BE PUBLISHED. And as to the towns reaction to a private company merger that they were not advised of the pending deal, get over it. My boss did not ask me if i cared if the business was sold .


Date: October 31, 2009 9:10 AM
Story headline: Hrbek says Carter leaked closed session information
Comment posted by: Shadowknows
Comment:

Mr. Carter, when something is given to you in closed session, there is a reason. It's to be kept confidential! Or was this an illegal closed session to begin with?


Date: November 1, 2009 9:19 AM
Story headline: Hrbek says Carter leaked closed session information
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

Carter again? Always trying so desperately to be "a somebody".


Date: November 2, 2009 7:17 AM
Story headline: Frightfully cute
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Okay, I'll say it: "Cuter than a bug."


Date: November 2, 2009 7:36 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

I am surprised that Ed Joslin was surprised that there were no kids or grandkids at this rally. Quite frankly, I wouldn't take my kids or grandkids to something like that. One can never trust that it will be a civil gathering nor can one trust that the language is appropriate for kids. Kids are best left out of this.


Date: November 2, 2009 7:44 AM
Story headline: Battlefield foundation may benefit from funds
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Oops. I'd forgotten how close the 150th anniversary was. Looks like a trip to the attic. By Spring of 2011, the mothball smell should be dissipated.


Date: November 2, 2009 7:53 AM
Story headline: Republicans rally at city airport
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

"...standing like a stonewall. Rally behind the Virginians, boys!"


Date: November 2, 2009 9:35 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: come_on_already
Comment:

I'm surprised this group was not around sooner.
We really needed a group like this to voice their opinions when the last administration was in office. A record national deficit, horrible foreign policy, a homeland security embarrassment (katrina), a ridiculously named and unconstitutional "patriot-act", a failing economy, a falling dollar, record oil prices, and the most unpopular administration in the history of our great country. All while invading a country to search for the WMD's that posed an imminent threat to our borders, which (oops) turned out to not really be there in the first place.
Thank goodness this group has come to action NOW, when we need them the most.


Date: November 2, 2009 9:40 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

Ratigan is a farce attempting to create a cult of far right wing followers eager to eat their own by pushing the same tired old rhetoric expected from evangelical cultists against everything. Who really controls the Republican Party? Is grass roots anger now the driving force in politics? Is this a wise winning strategy for Republicans? At 11:15, I counted 39 people watching Ratigan read his boiler plate speech that was filled with "sacred" this and "sacred" that, followed by Kim Bishop who wants her god in charge of everything, including "un-teaching public school lies" followed by Suzzanne Curran who began her speech with "Hey, Christians". I thought folks landed at Pilgrim Rock to escape religious persecution in England. Our Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, speech, and separation of church and state. According to Ratigan, Bishop, and Curran, if there is going to be a god in charge of everything, why can't it be my god and not their god? Can you feel me?


Date: November 2, 2009 10:28 AM
Story headline: Republicans rally at city airport
Comment posted by: CaCaToRy
Comment:

YUK! I think I'm gonna be sick.


Date: November 2, 2009 10:48 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

Ratigan wants to reorganize the village to suit the village idiots?


Date: November 2, 2009 11:28 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

I'd love to know where in the Constitution Min Gent finds the words "separation of church and state". It was actually Mr. Jefferson who uttered those words, of course he meant that Government should let people worship as they pleased, not that God had no place in government.
Jefferson declared that religion is deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support.
However you may take Jefferson's faith, he very much believed that God should be in government, schools and life, and most of our other Founding Fathers specifically called ours a Christian Nation. So sad that the facts upset you, but they are what they are.
"The only foundation for useful education in a repubic is to be laid in religion." THOMAS JEFFERSON.
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the Gift of God?" THOMAS JEFFERSON
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." JAMES MADISON
If we don't start teaching our children that they are more than animals, created by God and more than the collective our way of life will vanish, so yes anyone out there please "un-teach" your children the lies of the public education system.


Date: November 2, 2009 11:45 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

"The Republic is not dead."


Really? Because all of those gravestones they surrounded themselves with would suggest otherwise. That might also explain the lack of children in attendance.


Date: November 2, 2009 11:59 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: whistler
Comment:

I have been to five of these events, including two in Front Royal, and the one in D.C. I have yet to see anything but a civil gathering. These are law abiding citizens who simply want our country to adhere to the constitution and regain our freedoms that it guarantees. They also want our government to stop spending us and our children and grandchildren in to poverty. If I had children, I would have taken them, and they would have not heard bad language, or seen anything except a peaceful gathering. In fact, children likely hear and see much worse at school and elsewhere.

Kim Bishop is 100% correct in her comments about God (not "god") and the statements our founding fathers made concerning the necessity of God in government.


Date: November 2, 2009 1:18 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: CaCaToRy
Comment:

Hey Bishop:
The same Constitution that gives you the right to peaceably assemble in the Warren County Government Center parking lot also gives the rest of us (ok, and you too) freedom to practice our religion. Convenient of you to forget these small details when it suits you.

First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The 13th Amendment abolished slavery. Didn't Thomas Jefferson own slaves? Jefferson was a mere mortal and wasn't infallible after all? Surprise, surprise!


Date: November 2, 2009 1:40 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

"so yes anyone out there please "un-teach" your children the lies of the public education system."

although as an anti-socialist, I am sure you send your kids to private school right?


Furthermore, I am confident that Berkley Pearson avoids the socialist-stigma of hunting on public land, which is clearly a socialist value. What's next? Public apple groves?


Date: November 2, 2009 2:38 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

Far be it from me to jump on any side of this, but this is what I know.

At least they are doing something. If we are not satisfied with how things are, we must make our voice heard. Maybe they don't speak for you, or me, but they have a right to be heard.

Our leadership has forgotten their purpose. From the Board of Supevisors to Congress, no one is hearing whats being said. Disagree with them, sure, but realize that without people like them (willing to speak out) we would be under the rule of a tyranical government.


Date: November 2, 2009 4:15 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Irishman71
Comment:

Well, I am not one that typically finds myself on the side that Ms. Bishop is on, but here's how I feel about this...

With regard to religion, the Founding Fathers seemed pretty clear that they took no issue with our nation being a Christian nation. The difference between us and where we came from was supposed to be that we wouldn't persecute anyone for differing religious views and for the most part we've held true to that as a nation.

Now I am certainly of a more liberal mindset than Kim (you don't mind me calling you Kim, right? ;) ),so as far as schools are concerned I offer a bit more leeway with my views.

I'd have no problem removing reference to God and prayer and such from our schools IF we could somehow keep from losing the core values that religion teaches us from our schools and children.

I it too big of a coincidence that our society and our youth have lost their moral compasses in almost complete unison with this "War against Christianity" that is seemingly being waged in this country.

On almost any other topic I would probably find myself at odds with this "Call for Action America" group, but not on this one...


Date: November 2, 2009 6:13 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Your always welcome to call me Kim, Irishman. You're one of the few who have ever taken the time to have a civil discourse with me, even though we often disagree. I appreciate your words of support (at least on this issue). ;) I'm sure we'll have many more opportunities to disagree in the future.

blessings


Date: November 3, 2009 7:40 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: beckrose
Comment:

AMEN!!!!


Date: November 3, 2009 9:34 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

Bishop stated she wanted children to unlearn "public school lies". Does Bishop want the science curriculum in public schools to be written in deference to religious beliefs? Does Bishop quarrel with modern biologists, geologists, astronomers, paleontologists, and chemists? I dare say she has no quarrel with math, language, literature or phys Ed.

If Bishop insists that life is the creation of a god, not the happenstance consequence of random occurrences, what do we do when man creates life in a test tube? Does he become a god?


Date: November 3, 2009 9:38 AM
Story headline: Officials eye increases to independent water rates
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Hello,
This city and county will never have enough monie to run because of the outrageous salaries
they are paid and still want more by given raises this year to the Mayor and council and over paid cilty attorney and then a new incoming city manager must have a raise to put them in good with the city council that runs the town.
Everyone's else pay frozen that auctually work and not just sit for their money.
By the way my average water bill in the county
is $125 for a family of 2.
Tell me i am supporting my leaders to have a better living for no work..


Date: November 3, 2009 3:37 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Min Gent,

I would like science books to give both arguments about creation, uniformitarianism and catastrophism. Modern biologists, geologists, and paleontologists are questioning many of Darwin's conclusions and since Science is always changing, always being questioned (by experimentation) why are public school science books stuck in the theories of the past. Darwinian evolution has never been proved into law and is actually being disproved often.
Man has never created life in a test tube, they have simply taken the building blocks of life and combined them outside of the natural order of things. I'm not afraid of teaching my children evolution, I have given them both arguments and it will be up to them to decide what they believe. Do you believe in only indoctrination? I believe school should be about giving facts and letting people decide on their own, but the public schools do not offer differing opinion.

I'd like to know how you judge right from wrong, Min Gent, if you don't believe in a higher power. Where does you morality come from or do you have none. Do you consider murder, suicide, theft, rape, child molestation or any other criminal activity wrong? If we are just a bunch of random happenstances who's to say what is right or wrong or that anything is wrong. There must be something more than ourselves otherwise we are no better than animals and should behave as such. Awaiting your reply.


Date: November 4, 2009 12:01 AM
Story headline: Driver killed when vehicle strikes tree
Comment posted by: Judy
Comment:

Why the heck is Liquor still Legal..???? Pot is not legal .!! BUT how many people have been killed by smoking . I feel bad for this young man's family. Just a thought..


Date: November 4, 2009 7:20 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: beckrose
Comment:

It just goes to show what an ignorant and unenlightened electorate we live in. The Shenandoah Valley deserves the backward governance it will get.


Date: November 4, 2009 7:53 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: woodman1
Comment:

This election confirms once again what I long have suspected, and that is that the average intelligence of the electorate in the Shenandoah Valley simply isn't very high.


Date: November 4, 2009 7:58 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: woodman1
Comment:

This election confirms once again what I have long suspected and that is that the intelligence of the electorate in the Shenandoah Valley simply is not very high.


Date: November 4, 2009 8:10 AM
Story headline: Police credit volunteers with curbing misconduct
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

I am still a little bit confused about this loitering issue. Why do the gazebo and adjacent benches even exist, if not for the purpose of "loitering"? Are there posted time limits helping people understand how long they are welcome to hang out downtown? And do the volunteers receive any type of training? Is there any consistency as to what is considered "profanity" and what are protected forms of free speech? Is there any evidence to support the belief that kids are openly using drugs on main street, right next to the police station? It almost sounds like the local business owners want to keep the local population hidden so that the main street can be reserved exclusively for the use of out-of-town tourists with deeper pockets and nicer clothing.


These are just a few questions that come to mind.


Date: November 4, 2009 8:57 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

Well, the Virginia Taliban won - looks like the Commonwealth is in for a hard few years. The people of the "Valley" will get more of what they voted for - low employment and low wages. They deserve it.


Date: November 4, 2009 9:21 AM
Story headline: Police credit volunteers with curbing misconduct
Comment posted by: GOODXS
Comment:

OK,I understand that the young people can be a nuisance, but you have to look on the other hand.There is no real rec center or teen center/club for them to go.When i was growing up we had a teen club held out of an old church , it was the best u could play basket ball, pool , board games, listen to music and dance Why not create a place for them to go to for a few hours an hang out with there friends and it should be founded by down town business owners . .


Date: November 4, 2009 9:48 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

What a bunch of hypocrites. Maybe if the Democratic Pary would have put up some decent nominiees they would of had a chance. I guess you three are no different than the morons on the right that put bumper stickers on that read "Nobama" or One Big A-- Mistake America. Aren't you proud?


Date: November 4, 2009 10:36 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

Your comment suggests that you believe ALL of Shenandoah Valley voted Republican which of course, it did not. Instead of insulting the entire Shenandoah Valley, maybe you need to check your facts before YOUR intelligence comes into question.


Date: November 4, 2009 11:09 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: impeachobama
Comment:

Wow the comments from the losers...Doesnt surprise me that when the left doesnt get what they want they have to resort to name calliing. Typical of them...Things are bout to CHANGE around here!!


Date: November 4, 2009 1:23 PM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: hills4life
Comment:

Left and liberal has always considered itself more intelligent and enlightened then the working class republican who's back our nation was built on. As for the hard years ahead for the people of the valley.....I suppose the low employment and low wage issues were at the very verge of being solved by the democrats that just got routed ? I think the people of the valley are reaping the benefits of the last round of bad decisions. These elections are a message to the president, or at least he should take it as one. He will never see the one thing every first term pres wants to see.


Date: November 4, 2009 2:01 PM
Story headline: Police credit volunteers with curbing misconduct
Comment posted by: resident80
Comment:

I don't think that the loitering that the downtown business owners are complaining about is in regards to people at the gazebo. They seem to understand that it is a public place and people have the right to gather there if they like. It seems like it is the people that loiter in front of stores screaming profanities across the street is more of the problem. I am not a merchant on Main Street but I can say that when I have had my family downtown that many times I have had people using more sever curse words quite loudly in front of my children and I can see how it would run off business. I have never had a store owner make me feel like they only wanted out of towners with deeper pockets shopping there. If anything they were always overly eager to have me come back and to tell everyone that I know to come by as well. I have also never heard anyone speak of actual drug usage downtown but rather the possibility of drug dealing. Either way, I agree that children need a place to go such as a rec center or church. Research the Front Royal Police Department VIPS and you will see that they have received training and are only relaying the information back to the Police Department not actually doing the job of the officers. I applaud their efforts and anyone associated with this activity. I think it is better to monitor any problems now before they become larger.


Date: November 4, 2009 2:14 PM
Story headline: Police credit volunteers with curbing misconduct
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Traditionaly, what constitutes loitering has been a judgment call. Old Mr. Amos sitting on his bench with his newspaper and pigeons is generally not considered loitering. His grandson Thad and his buddies hanging on the corner appearing to case the area and making noise often is.

One problem with groups of people hanging around a place for no discernible reason is it makes others think they as up to something. Often they're not, they're just there because they're not somewhere else. But, it makes people uncomfortable and they stop coming to the area. This tends to make merchants cross for some reason and, if the folks stay away long enough, they close and move out starting the neighborhood on a downward spiral.

Whether one is loitering or not is rather like the "right of innocent passage" in naval law. Ships that sailed through an area with their gunports closed were accorded the right to pass through as long as they appeared to be making an innocent transit. If, on the other hand, they were cleared for action, they would be stopped and turned back.

"Loitering" suggests that one might not have innocent intentions (one reason naval patrol craft "loiter" rather than just sail or fly around).

I agree that the kids need someplace to go and something to do. A lot of times, there is nothing (keeping in mind that these same people are known to look in a stuffed refrigerator and complain, "There's nothin' to eat!"--yeah, I did it too). Young people are an inherently messy proposition and they do need somewhere to be with others of their sort were they can do their thing in safety and without unnerving us old poots too much.

Another thought, why not invite them to take part in the patrols? Works for the Guardian Angels.



Date: November 4, 2009 2:25 PM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

A suggestion to the GOP, you might want to keep in mind that you can leave office the same way and at the same speed as the folks you are replacing for the same reasons.


Date: November 4, 2009 2:37 PM
Story headline: Glasses fast out of style
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Know what you mean. I haven't had to buy anything since 1970--uh oh...you don't suppose the present economy is my fault?


Date: November 4, 2009 3:24 PM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: now-open-eyes
Comment:

nice to see that people that care about family values are viewed as ignorant and uneducated...


Date: November 4, 2009 4:16 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

One rule encapsulates everything needed for people to be moral beings. That rule is the Golden Rule; Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Those who cavalierly reject the theory of evolution as not adequately supported by facts seem to forget their own theory is supported by no facts at all.

Creationism's latest face is just like its earlier face, only now thinly disguised with a fake mustache. Failing to demonstrate the scientific credibility of their views, creationists increasingly retreat to their standard fallback strategy for undermining the teaching of evolution: misrepresenting evolution as scientifically controversial while remaining silent about what they regard as the alternative. This move represents only a slight rhetorical shift. From the Scopes era onward, creationists have simultaneously employed three central rhetorical themes, sometimes called the three pillars of creationism, to attack evolution:

· That evolution is unsupported by or actually in conflict with the facts of science.
· That teaching evolution threatens religion, mortality, and society
· That fairness dictates the necessity teaching creationism alongside evolution.

The fallback strategy amounts to substituting for creationism the scientifically unwarranted claim that evolution is a theory in crisis.

"Academic freedom" was the creationist catchphrase of choice in 2008 when Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindall signed the Louisiana Science Education Act. Other bills invoking the idea were introduced in Alabama, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, and South Carolina. As of November 2008, all of these bills were dead or stalled. The Louisiana act is under challenge in federal court as unconstitutional according to the 1968 US Supreme Court decision Epperson v. Arkansas.

The appeal of "academic freedom" as a slogan for the creationist fallback strategy is obvious. Everybody approves of freedom, and plenty of people have a sense academic freedom is desirable, even if they do not necessarily have a good understanding of what it is.

Regarding evolution as fact or fantasy, one only has to visit the nearest kennel and view the wide diversity of dog breeds available today, from Chihuahua to English Mastiff, all descended from canis lupus, the common grey wolf.

Evolution is a well-accepted scientific fact. Millions of fossils show that life has existed for billions of years and changed over time. When considering the sweep of cosmological history from the Big Bang to the evolution of life on Earth, no one objects to most of it. Everything is OK until the apes stand up, subverting the myth Adam was made from clay and Eve from his rib.

Evangelicals tenaciously believe your lineage is what determines your worth. Their god did not create people from slime. It is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science. Evangelicals are people who are so self-righteous, so ill-informed, and so dogmatic that nothing you can say or do will change their minds.

Bulletin, this just in: The world is round and the earth circles the sun. What other wonders await the curious?


Date: November 4, 2009 5:54 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

Typo corrections to previous post;
2nd bullet point remove the letter "t" from "mortality", changing the word to "morality".
Change "November 2008" to "November 2009".


Date: November 4, 2009 6:27 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

You sir or madam are arguing over nothing. I do not fear evolution, so I don't see why you fear creationism. Both are simply unproven beliefs borne upon facts both sides can argue. There is massive evidence for a young earth and many arguments against the fossil record. However, on a blog is not the place to argue it. You will never change your mind and I will not change mine. However God chose to create the earth whether through your unproven way or my unproven way I believe he did. I do not ask you to believe what I believe. However, when there are two arguments (and creation is as valid as Darwinism) why not put both forward and let the facts play themselves out. If you are correct then most everyone should follow your view. You should not fear the other side.

My argument for "unteaching" children the lies taught in public school have nothing to do with science, but more to do with their individualism. Nationalized tests and pigeon holing children into categories only stifles individual personalities. Not every child will be a scientist or mathematician. Some will be artists and musicians. Some will be pastors and manual laborers. We need to uphold the lowly as well as the elite, and until we stop teaching our children that they are simply accidents and worth nothing more than the primordial ooze they climbed out of they will never reach their full potential.

I've tried to answer your questions, and I am waiting for my answer about morality. Do you have it? And if so where does it come from, because if we're nothing more than the highest form of evolutionary ooze why should we care at all about our fellow man. Survival of the fittest should rule. If we're nothing more than animals can we eat our young? Kill at will? Take what we want? Please give me an answer.


Date: November 4, 2009 8:09 PM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: Here to Stay
Comment:

I have a great idea, why don't you liberals go back to where you came from, we were better off before you came into our local towns and tainted them with your know it all, self serving ways! We will gladly point you in the direction of the nearest interstate exit out of dodge!


Date: November 4, 2009 10:23 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

One more thing, Min Gent, you say that evolution is a well-accepted scientific fact (I'm assuming you mean Darwinism), but if you look way back in history you probably know that it was once a well-accepted scientific fact that the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it. Funny thing, science, one day the scientific know-it-all's are sure the earth is flat and poof some new piece of evidence comes forward to prove it wrong. When Darwinism is proven a law, using the scientific method then you'll have me, but as scientists are learning more about DNA and the human genome it seems that Mr. Darwin's theory is becoming quite incorrect, kind of like global warming. BTW I do know that the earth is round and that it revolves around the sun. I also know that life evolves, I just don't accept the premise that species evolve into other species (there is no proof in the fossil record for that.) Your arguments would be better served if you left the grade school insults back in grade school.


Date: November 5, 2009 12:31 AM
Story headline: Police credit volunteers with curbing misconduct
Comment posted by: Doug
Comment:

Does the police have anything else better to tend to like fighting crime or finding real drug dealers. Its sad enough their is nothing for kids to do around town and the only place where they can meet is becoming their last. The last thing we need are safety patrollers walking the streets.


Date: November 5, 2009 7:54 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: woodman1
Comment:

And just how are things going to change? Are you all going to repeal the theory of evolution. Perhaps decide the world truly is flat??


Date: November 5, 2009 8:40 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: beckrose
Comment:

"Family values" is a Republican/Conservative code phrase for hating gays, anything"liberal", anything non-Christian and being afraid of anything that looks different from what you are used to. Sorry but those are not "values", that's hatred, fear and yes, ignorance.


Date: November 5, 2009 10:13 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

In case you missed it. Things are bout to change round here, was a play on the presidents oft commented phrase. And how do you repeal a Theory, just curious.


Date: November 5, 2009 10:19 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

"Family Values" means a little something different to everyone. I'm sure from your comment you expect you "values" are differnet to the previous poster. Your comment reflects the very reason our country is in the shape its in. People try and associate themselves to a party. They may buy into 30 percent of the philosophy of that party but they are branded none the less. And for some reason it's apparently a travesty if one side happens to agree with something the other side says. It's a shame our servicemembers past and present put their lives on the line for adults to act like children.


Date: November 5, 2009 11:01 AM
Story headline: Students view documentary chronicling struggle for equal education in Warren
Comment posted by: cenick
Comment:

My thanks to the producers of this excellent documentary and to the students who so bravely made this happen.

I would suggest that this be required viewing for all students.


Date: November 5, 2009 11:13 AM
Story headline: Students view documentary chronicling struggle for equal education in Warren
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

"The more informed you are, the better person you are," Smith said.


I would like to thank everyone involved, especially Mr. Kilby, for devoting much of their lives to this cause. I also commend the students for participating in this painful recollection of an event which, sadly, is still a topic of debate locally.


Date: November 5, 2009 11:42 AM
Story headline: Students view documentary chronicling struggle for equal education in Warren
Comment posted by: Jim
Comment:

It was September 1958 not 1959


Date: November 5, 2009 12:03 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

I believe you stated evolution is only a theory, it is not a fact or a scientific law.

Many people learned in elementary school that a theory falls in the middle of a hierarchy of certainty - above a mere hypothesis but below a law. Scientists do not use the terms that way, however. According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), a scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." No amount of validation changes a theory into a law, which is a descriptive generalization about nature. So, when scientists talk about the theory of evolution ( or the atomic theory, or the theory of relativity, for that matter ) they are not expressing reservations about its truth.

In addition to the "theory" of evolution, meaning the idea of descent with modification, one may also speak of the "fact" of evolution. The NAS defines a fact as "an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as 'true.'" The fossil record and abundant other evidence testify that organisms have evolved through time. Although no one observed those transformations, the indirect evidence is clear, unambiguous and compelling.

All sciences frequently rely on indirect evidence. Physicists cannot see subatomic particles directly, for instance, so they verify their existence by watching for tell-tale tracks that the particles leave in cloud chambers. The absence of direct observation does not make physicists' conclusions less certain. The atomic bomb validates physicists conclusions about particles we can not see.

One of the core principles involving scientific theory is that a theory can be modified when new evidence is uncovered. As Galileo, Kepler, Newton, and others investigated the universe around us their discoveries could be codified into laws of nature. Collectively, they were able to demonstrate the planets, including our earth, were not embedded in "crystalline spheres" that carried them around the earth-centric universe. For publishing his observations, Galileo was persecuted by the catholic church for blasphemy and threatened with death unless he recanted.

Your second contention is Darwin's "theory is becoming quite incorrect".

No evidence suggests that evolution is losing adherents. Pick up any issue of a peer-reviewed biological journal, and you will find articles that support and extend evolutionary studies or that embrace evolution as a fundamental concept.

Conversely, serious scientific publications disputing evolution are all but nonexistent. In the mid-1990's the University of Washington surveyed thousands of journals in the primary literature, seeking articles on intelligent design or creation science. Among those hundreds of thousands of scientific reports, they found none. Other independent surveys have been similarly fruitless.

Creationists retort that a closed-minded scientific community rejects their evidence. Yet according to the editors of Nature, Science, and other leading journals, few antievolution manuscripts are even submitted. Some antievolution authors have published papers in serious journals. Those papers, however, rarely attack evolution directly or advance creationist arguments; at best, they identify certain evolutionary problems as unsolved and difficult (which no one disputes). In short, creationists are not giving the scientific world good reason to take them seriously.


Date: November 5, 2009 12:36 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

I believe Bishop stated she doesn't "...accept the premise that species evolve into other species (there is no proof in the fossil record for that.) "

Actually, paleontologists know of many detailed examples of fossils intermediate in form between various taxonomic groups. One of the most famous fossils of all time is "Archaeopteryx", which combines feathers and skeletal structures peculiar to birds with features of dinosaurs. A flock's worth of other feathered fossil species, some more avian and some less, has also been found. A sequence of fossils spans the evolution of modern horses from the tiny "Eohippus". Whales had four-legged ancestors that walked on land, and creatures known as "Ambulocetus" and "Rodhocetus" helped to make that transition.

Fossil seashells trace the evolution of various mollusks through millions of years. Perhaps 20 or more hominids (not all of them our ancestors) fill the gap between "Lucy", the "Australopithecine", or "Ardi", the "Ardipithecus", the newly found new kind of possible ancestor on the path leading to modern humans. The "Ardi" fossil is remarkable for walking upright on two legs and having an opposed big toe, useful for grasping, and a wrist not suited for knuckle walking.

Creationists, though, dismiss these fossil studies. They argue that "Archaeopteryx" is not a missing link between reptiles and birds - it is just an extinct bird with reptilian features. They want evolutionists to produce a weird, chimeric monster that cannot be classified as belonging to any known group. Even if a creationist does accept a fossil as transitional between two species, he or she may then insist on seeing other fossils intermediate between it and the first two. These frustrating requests can proceed ad infinitum and place an unreasonable burden on the always incomplete fossil record.

Nevertheless, evolutionists can cite further supportive evidence from molecular biology. All organisms share most of the same genes, but as evolution predicts, the structures of these genes and their products diverge among species, in keeping with their evolutionary relationships. Geneticists speak of the "molecular clock" that records the passage of time. These molecular data also show how various organisms are transitional within evolution.

Bishop presents her objections as if they were newly discovered evidence refuting the huge repository of discoveries used by science and scientists to formulate their theories. Instead, Bishop is merely resurrecting the same nonsensical arguments best demonstrated with the circular illogical observation if children descended from adults, why are there still adults?



Date: November 5, 2009 1:29 PM
Story headline: Woman pleads guilty to embezzlement
Comment posted by: fedup
Comment:

I think its ridiculous that these two got out of yet another crime.
The way this article reads, I feel like being led into believing that it's OK to steal money from the rescue squad.
Such a victim, as if stealing money from the safe should seem like the right thing to do. Who wouldn't know that taking money out of someone's safe is stealing?


Date: November 5, 2009 3:21 PM
Story headline: Woman pleads guilty to embezzlement
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

Charles Manson was manipulative and domineering too, but his "pawns" still went to jail...


Date: November 5, 2009 5:28 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Well, since all of my arguments are "nonsensical" I guess there is no longer any use of us debating. Your faith in science is as strong as my faith in God. While I tried to answer your questions you simply disregard mine. Whether in 6 days or 6 million years I still believe God created the earth. I still believe humans are more than beasts and my faith will not be shattered either way. Science is only true until it is disproved and God can never be proved or disproved, but both are based on faith and believing in something that cannot be proved beyond any reasonable doubt. There is no point in arguing because both of us are holding fast to our religion (yes science is a religion). I do wonder though if you will ever even attempt to answer my questions, but since they cannot fit into any test tube I guess you just think they're silly and worthless. Even though I know you think me stupid I will be praying for you. Even if you don't believe in God he is still there. May he bless you.


Date: November 5, 2009 9:00 PM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: impeachobama
Comment:

The worlds not flat? Boy, u liberals really R smart...Congrats to the winners...The GOP!!!!!!!


Date: November 6, 2009 8:16 AM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

After reading all of the comments here, it seems that someone needs to remind everyone of a little something that apparently a lot of us have forgotten! The following is not a quote, but rather little bits and pieces of a couple of well known documents you may be familiar with.

WE THE PEOPLE of the UNITED States...

...and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for ALL!

Sorry folks, but one little group or party does not get to call dibs on the entire US. I have yet to find anything written (other than these posts anyway) that says the US is for only the liberals, or only the moderates, or only the conservatives, or only the lefts, or only the rights and so forth and so on. No matter what our views and beliefs are WE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!

You speak of the big, bad government taking away our freedom. I hate to point this out, but freedom and unity is being done away with by the very people who blame government for taking it away!! Re-read some of these posts! Listen to yourselves!! Government has not ruined our country! WE the people are the ones helping that along at a fast rate!

We vote for our elected officials, but in a lot of cases, we vote for the lesser of 2 evils, not the best man or woman! Campaigns have been reduced to lies, cheats, thievery, slander, etc. If you think about it, these people are running for office to represent US. Maybe if WE were a better lot, we could have better representatives. If all we are is just a bunch of name calling, juvenile, back stabbing, nit picking, slanderous, rowdy, uncivil, haters of anything and anyone who is the least bit different than ourselves, then we deserve to have one of us represent us. Birds of a feather as they say....

Maybe if a particular party wins an election, they ought to make the "loser" second lieutenant or vice delegate or something along those lines in order to force the parties to work together. The shame put on America is NOT entirely a government issue, but rather what WE have put upon ourselves.


Date: November 6, 2009 9:41 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

Yes, your arguments are nonsensical. Science is not a religion or a "faith" based set of knowledge that exists only because someone believes in a supernatural reason for its existence. Science is not explained by "magic".

As always in the contentious history of evolution education in the U.S., the devil is in the details. Evangelicals want laws specifically targeting the teaching of evolution in public schools. These laws make no sense because lurking in the background is creationism and the rejection of a scientific explanation of the history of life in favor of a supernatural account involving a personal creator and the use of powerful magic to explain the unknown.

Creationists have long battled against the teaching of evolution in U.S. public schools and their strategies have evolved in reaction to legal setbacks. Indeed, nothing about these attempts to dictate educational curriculums makes any sense except in the light of religion inspired creationism. No longer able to keep evolution out of the science classrooms of the public schools, creationists have begun to portray creationism as a scientifically credible alternative, dubbing it creation science or scientific creationism, or intelligent design, obviously inspired by a particular literal interpretation of the book of Genesis.

So, my message to you, Bishop, is keep your religion to yourself and allow others the freedom of choice to keep their religions to themselves.

The day you stop trying to interject your private religious beliefs into the everyday public lives of others will be the day the contentiousness ends.


Date: November 6, 2009 11:51 AM
Story headline: Webb's bill leads charge for marking Civil War's 150th anniversary
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Thinking about the War Between the States, someone (I forget who) remarked that before the war, it was "The United States ARE..." and after the war, it became "The United States IS..."


Date: November 6, 2009 4:32 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Min Gent doth protest too much, me thinks!;)


Date: November 7, 2009 10:21 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: CaCaToRy
Comment:

There is a familiar pathology to this "call to action" movement. They are mimicking the John Birch Society’s “ruthless prosecution” of its own ideological war which often mimicked the tactics of its Communist enemies.

The "call to action" rally's antecedent can be found in the early 1960s, when the radical-right hysteria carried some of the same traits we’re seeing now: seething rage, fear of minorities, maniacal contempt for government, and a Freudian tendency to mimic the excesses of political foes.

As Ratigan, Bishop, and Curran constantly liken the president to various totalitarian dictators, it is they who are re-enacting Stalinism in full purge mode.

Freedom of religion does not allow others to impose their viewpoints over yours by manipulating the legislative, judicial, or administrative processes.

Vigorous debate usually reduces ignorance into silence.


Date: November 7, 2009 12:48 PM
Story headline: Decision on property rezoning postponed
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Here we are again with no one paying attention to what is needed from the citizens of the area.
The board makes its own decisions no matter what everyone else thinks.
Myself i am tired of all the building and rezoning going on around the Winchester area.
What they fail to see is the people that live in this area will not be able to afford to do so because of the taxes and utilites that are burding them now to live here.
BUT, our governing body is fat because of robbing the citizens.
We do not have the pay structure to feed our
government and city employees the outrageous
monies they are payed.
If you make $10 an hour here you can not survive if you pay rent and utilites.You will eventuly get so far in debt and starve to death to have a place with a roof over your head..
It is time for our local government to stop feeding off of us and keep this community a nice affordably place to live. It did not take long to get rid of the signs in our town saying we are a
Allstar Community. So we can keep lining the pockets of our leader and contractors with the monies or start stating you opionion.So many citizen have been forced to move from their homes to a special facility because they can't
afford to keep their homes they have lived in all their live and raised their families there.
The cost keeps rising but their income is fixed.
This is way of local government to take care of the citizen that made Winchester what it was,a
great place to live, and not a suburb of Washington DC. with all the crime and cost of running a city...
Thank you,
We need to make a local government sweep and get back to a normal town.
Put in new faces and let them live with the rest of the no say people with no pay.


Date: November 7, 2009 1:05 PM
Story headline: TrAIL files petition to acquire Frederick land for transmission line
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Here we are again..
This is another project that was egnored by the government that citizens did not want any part of,but they do it any way.
This only thing that is for sure is that people will be forced to sell their homes at a great loss and your electric bill will go up and not down.
Although the Washington DC area will benefit from this and don't you think that is just great?
We suffer for the benefit of others to get more money in their pockets.
These are you Local government people letting them walk on you to benefit them..
Imagine That...



Date: November 7, 2009 3:02 PM
Story headline: Republicans sweep valley elections
Comment posted by: beckrose
Comment:

You know folks it seems to me that we are no longer "one nation under God". The notion may feel good and raise the hair on your neck but on the ground, it is flat not so. All sides covet their own arguments because the stakes seem so high. In reality, we are no longer even a functioning democracy any more other than in name, and it is time to face that. When the common good can not be pursued because of some outmoded vague fear of "socialism", something in our national psyche is deeply skewed. It seems clear to me that we are in fact a Plutocracy/Oligarchy, where the powerful and moneyed few control everyone. And they (the political class) do so by buying off the legislative process that was formerly meant to represent the electorate, and by exploiting the most easily exploitable with fear to achieve their own ends. This fear drives the far right. That much seams clear.
We should ALL be profoundly ashamed that our service people are dying in Iraq, by any intelligent estimation, a sham war that was clearly for control of oil at it's root. How their sacrifice gets linked to preserving American freedom is baffling and despicable to me.
And while we are all pontificating here, what I see as killing this country is blind self-interest from the corporations on down to every one of us.


Date: November 7, 2009 7:31 PM
Story headline: Bob Wooten: Wolves that live among us
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Thinking about the series of mass murders over the last twenty years, I'm afraid what comes to mind is: "Get used to it." What with the Post Office shootings (which even gave a new term to English--"going postal"), the school shootings, the business shootings, and now Fort Hood, they have become a fact of life. One of the commonalities is that the targets are large groups of people with no way to protect themselves.

One answer always trotted out is that guns be removed from the citizenry. I'm afraid that genie is out of the bottle. There are presently too many firearms out there to be successfully confiscated. While some politicians and various pressure groups constantly call for such action, they're not the guys who have to confront the probably irate gun owners. I'm inclined to think we really don't want to go there.

It is notable that these sort of attacks are rare where concealed-carry laws exist. This may mean nothing, but one wonders.

The problem seems more with the creature pulling the trigger rather than the firearm itself. Why do people kill their non-threatening fellows? One thing that often jumps out in the background of the shooters is their isolation. They're usually described as quiet and keeping to themselves--the little man who wasn't there. They preceive themselves as outsiders. They normally belong to no religious organizations, clubs, or interest groups. They either have little or no relations with women or the relationships they have have broken down. The basic problem appears to be that they are trapped in a bubble with themselves.

The question is what we can do to address this problem. It has shown up a number of times in history; the late Roman Empire and Renaissance Italy comes to mind. We might not care for the cure from those periods, the colapse of the Empire and the beginning of the Thirty-Years War.


Date: November 7, 2009 7:43 PM
Story headline: Three indicted in plot to kill councilwoman
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Yep, family values.


Date: November 10, 2009 7:23 AM
Story headline: Donations sought for holiday gift giving
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

What a wonderful cause especially in this economy! Help make a child's Christmas by donating even a small amount! It adds up quickly! My check is in the mail!


Date: November 10, 2009 3:26 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Sun set to shine at Avtex
Comment posted by: Otto Skorzeny
Comment:

Mr. Fordney, man do I have a bridge to sell you. Out of the clear blue sky, some guy, who has NEVER built or installed one solar panel, sails into town (one would ask- why Front Royal?) and makes a pitch too good to be true. Later he drops out because of several bankruptcy suits but, by then, we have Arctic Air and refrigeration and Donnie Poe ready to install these intricate panels. Not to disparage the technological capabilities of these two, again, they have never done anything like this. But several board members have jumped on this idea with a vengeance - hmmm, wonder why? Only one front Royal councilman has raised concerns about the realities of this, but a scam is a scam. Cover it with "Environmental Goodness" and everybody loves it. Still a scam.
Now the County Supervisors have weighed in - some against it. Maybe they have read that these "sun farms" don't really work except in LARGE areas in Arizona. I know that your apparent "sky blue" outlook would make you believe that we get enough sun, but yes Mr. Fordney, sometimes we have cloudy days.

Time to open our eyes and check this thing out. Who is backing this, have they ever done any of this, who is getting paid, why here?

As for the amazing transformation of the Shenandoah River - you should ask "why the huge fish kills" that have occured in the last several years.
Otto


Date: November 11, 2009 11:05 AM
Story headline: Front Royal zoning director resigns
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

The proper line when someone leaves government is usually: "He's resigning to spend more time with his family."


Date: November 11, 2009 1:05 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Sun set to shine at Avtex
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

One explanation I've seen from a couple of responsible groups for the fish kills Otto mentions, suggests that some may be caused by high levels of estrogen in the water. This is supposedly from effluence from waste water systems. As far as I know, at the moment, no waste treatment systems screen out such hormones that apparently come from the widespread use of oral contraceptives.

The museum idea sounds interesting. It might be a thought to incorporate material from the other such textile plants down through the Valley.


Date: November 11, 2009 4:53 PM
Story headline: Brother of slain woman is arraigned
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/F0ef6pMLrOOIZ4pMBk5p8yIuLL77hBlQnN8_Ow--#75399
Comment:

OMG!!! I simply cannot blv this I mean this is FAMILY here & "we" just don't do these types of things especially for $$ it's truly upsetting. My heart goes out to Gail may she RIP I just can't blv something like this happened in my family may God have mercy on the person or persons who did this to Gail & hopefully justice will prevail in her honor.


Date: November 11, 2009 11:15 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

"re-enacting Stalinism in full purge mode"? Are you kidding me?!? Do you even know what that means?! Please tell me who any of us has murdered. Stalin was a mass murderer and total lunatic. Whether or not you think us "loony" we have neither coerced, forced, intimidated or any other such thing used by the Stalin and the communists. If you believe in vigorous debate perhaps you should quit trying to stifle the ideas and arguments of those with whom you disagree. All I have ever done is use my first amendment right to put forward my beliefs. If you disagree you use your first amendment right to put forth your beliefs and then people may choose between them. Quite honestly I am sick and tired of those of you who gladly use the same means as me to put your opinions forward and then tell me to shut up and keep to myself. The progressives have manipulated the legislative, judicial and administrative process far more than any other group, destroying the fabric of our society in the process. You may not like what I have to say, but you can be assured I will speak my mind until the day comes that the first amendment is done away with. Bush, Obama, left or right both sides have been taking away our rights for much longer than I've been alive. Perhaps instead of trying to be so high and mighty by thinking only you have the right to speak out maybe you should heed my words...my TRUE words from the October 31st rally which were that the problem with America is not Obama's fault or Bush's fault or the right or the left but the fault of US as Americans who have become apathetic and lazy. Yes, people that is what my speech was about, and while I do believe that our loss of God is the problem it doesn't negate the problem and that is unless we put aside this Republican vs. Democrat crap our Country is doomed. Instead of whining and moaning at me why don't you get off your butts and do something...at least Mr. Ratigan, Mrs. Curran and myself are trying to effect change.


Date: November 12, 2009 7:44 AM
Story headline: Linden crash kills 18-year-old
Comment posted by: John
Comment:

Rather than trying to miss a deer with a vehicle, McEathron said it's best to try to brake and maneuver around the animal, if possible.
Maneuver around the animal..... Isn't that the same as missing a deer?
You should NEVER try to swerve to miss a deer. For one thing, if you run off the road your chances for the greatest amount of damage to BOTH YOUR LIFE & CAR is from hitting a SOLID object (i.e. trees) than if you just try and stop and hit a movable object (deer). Deers give, trees don't!!!!!


Date: November 12, 2009 8:18 AM
Story headline: Bradley likely to appeal conviction
Comment posted by: Drewjax
Comment:

Wow, To all the people that are saying he deserves what he gets in prison. The boy was not a small child. He was a teenager. He did not do anything sexual to him. There is a difference!! The guys and gals in jail/prison DONT like child predators! I personally think that if I have warned someone NOT to come into my home or I will shoot, then you better stay out of my home!!! Regardless if my daughter or son invited you. My home is my home!!! END OF STORY!!! I believe that Mr. Bradley got what he deserved. That being the limit of 9 years +. But I do not think he deserves death or any other punishment. That us just my opinion.


Date: November 12, 2009 10:02 AM
Story headline: Joint hearing to address request for rezoning land
Comment posted by: Pam P
Comment:

I think that would be Great, the town needs to grow and it would be a great place for me to come home too .after 25 yrs .
God Bless
Pam in Tx


Date: November 12, 2009 11:10 AM
Story headline: Linden crash kills 18-year-old
Comment posted by: Paula
Comment:

Our family has known Nate for many years--since he lived across the street in Warrenton. He was Nate the Great to us and I am so sorry for his passing. What a spectacular young man he was in all the times he spent with us. Our love to his family and friends.


Date: November 12, 2009 2:54 PM
Story headline: Activist fights for women in Afghanistan
Comment posted by: Captain Hook
Comment:

Since the Talibandits are so keen on women wearing burkhas, I wonder how they'd take to the ladies packing assuault weapons under those things. They started it, let's turn this into a shooting gender war.


Date: November 12, 2009 3:48 PM
Story headline: Activist fights for women in Afghanistan
Comment posted by: Captain Hook
Comment:

I wonder how the Talibandits would take it if the ladies started packing assault weapons under their burkhas.


Date: November 12, 2009 5:46 PM
Story headline: Linden crash kills 18-year-old
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

The kids in the car and their families will be in our prayers.


Date: November 13, 2009 6:49 AM
Story headline: Senators support creation of commission to rein in federal debt
Comment posted by: Gauntlet
Comment:

A commission to rein in federal debt. And, Sen. Mark R. Warner, D-Va. said "No program is sacred, [and] yes, you have to look at cuts and no, you can't rule out revenues," .
Warner has to realize the people cannot support a Government that is out of control. You can't keep taking money from the bottom and hope it continues to support the you. If social security was canceled today, it would be less than three months for people like Warner to use it for something else useless to the citizens. And the United States would still be in just as much debt!


Date: November 13, 2009 7:43 AM
Story headline: Planners: Board should deny bid to open garage
Comment posted by: John
Comment:

First off, VDOT should have no say on what someone does on their property. That has nothing to do with transportation.
Second, they say they (VDOT) cannot support any increase in the use of the existing subdivision entrance. What entrance? Isn't this someones driveway off a state road? I hate to see what would happen if this person ever through a party at his house. Maybe the state police would be called out to direct traffic??
You would think in this day and time the county would go out of it's way to attract businesses within the county.


Date: November 13, 2009 7:46 AM
Story headline: Planners: Board should deny bid to open garage
Comment posted by: John
Comment:

And 3 or 4 cars a day isn't much traffic, is it? That's like: trash pickup, mail delivery, UPS or FedEx, & school bus drop off. I guess he won't be getting these services at his property if needed either????


Date: November 13, 2009 9:36 AM
Story headline: Town picks interim planning and zoning director
Comment posted by: jeffreyrodman
Comment:

Shocking!!

The Town of Front Royal can't keep a Planning and Zoning Director!

Could it be that the aggressive and hostile approach the Town takes toward Planning and Zoning is too distasteful?

Could it be that the Planning and Zoning Directors are tired of being forced to bully small businesses and developers?

Could it be that the Planning and Zoning Directors are tired of having to make up code in order to accomplish the direction of the Town?

Bring on the next poor fellow with grand visions of bringing integrity to the Planning and Zoning Department...then they can crush those visions like a bug!


Date: November 13, 2009 10:08 AM
Story headline: Council OKs amendment for recycling ramp
Comment posted by: Cheryl
Comment:

What are we going to do with the Old Shirley's building on Main Street? The building is one of the oldest in town and on the Historical route! The soldiers from the Civil War actually stayed there, we can't just wait until it falls down, that's history!


Date: November 13, 2009 10:08 AM
Story headline: Senators support creation of commission to rein in federal debt
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Who do these politicians think they're fooling? They're the ones responsible for the massive debts and out of control spending. They're trying to pull the wool over our eyes while they continue to fleece the taxpayer. Come on 2010!!


Date: November 13, 2009 12:42 PM
Story headline: Linden crash kills 18-year-old
Comment posted by: T. Stone
Comment:

Nathan was a very good friend to my daughter Jerri, He has been to my home several times. My husband and I enjoyed his visits, Nathan was always polite, kind, nothing but a pure gentleman. His Dad and Stepmother should be very proud. They both have done a wonderful job with him. Everyone who came to know Nathan loved him. He was a big hearted loving young man. He will surely be missed by everyone who knew him. God please be with his family. T. Stone


Date: November 13, 2009 12:42 PM
Story headline: Senators support creation of commission to rein in federal debt
Comment posted by: Captain Hook
Comment:

Smoke & mirrors, boys & girls. The federal debt will stop climbing when we run out of people to lend us money. Don't blame Congress. We elect these people on the basis of Federal money they send home for pet projects that are neither wanted, needed, or deserved. Any politician who fails to do so is commiting political suicide. Answer me this: if the government is paying for a project, say a weapons system the Pentagon doesn't want or bridge to nowhere, simply to create jobs, how is that not welfare?


Date: November 13, 2009 12:57 PM
Story headline: Congregations to discuss vote allowing active gays in clergy
Comment posted by: mrdtmbg
Comment:

I believe people should not be so closed minded. God made each one of us who we are black, white, green, yellow, straight, gay. We as a faith should welcome all of the childen of God. Maybe we do wrong in the eyes of others and in the eyes of god but he still made us it makes me no less able to believe in the holy trinity and the three solas on which the Lutheran church is founded. Who are we to condemn any person who wants to spread the good word among his or her world. As bad as things are today we should celebrate anyone wanting to tell the gospel. The real issue at hand is that closed minded individuals still think homosexuality is a choice, it is not a choice it is not a disease. It is the way you are born.


Date: November 13, 2009 1:11 PM
Story headline: Town picks interim planning and zoning director
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

I will be highly disappointed if we do not receive an update about this police incident related to the resignation....


Date: November 13, 2009 1:28 PM
Story headline: Planners: Board should deny bid to open garage
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

"First off, VDOT should have no say on what someone does on their property"


You are correct, assuming people are wiling to deliver their cars to the business using a helicopter. But if people plan to travel to and from the property using state owned roads and rights-of-way, then they will have to observe VDOT's regulations. The line-of-site regulations are there to protect our safety. In order to create a safe driveway, VDOT would need to realign the road, or lower the speed limit on the road, both of which would be controversial decisions. THe town is not preventing Mr. Mills from creating a business; just like everyone else in the county, he should feel free to select a suitable site within the existing appropriately zoned area and set up shop there.


Date: November 13, 2009 2:27 PM
Story headline: Author shares unique interest in history with local students
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

"Er, no...not THAT Robin Moore." It would have been nice if you had mentioned one or two of his titles. It makes the Amazon.com search a lot easier, especially when an author shares a famous name with another.


Date: November 13, 2009 3:28 PM
Story headline: Permit for rezoning approved by council
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Here we go again..
Our city finds a way to get around their furlough
days to get back in the money for them again.
We can't fight the city government when they can just vote the issues away in their favor.
We need to get back to reality and get our city and county government back to small town pay
instead of Washington,D.C. pay scale of where
some of the people do work for the city and are paid accordingly to the payscale in that area because of industry jobs and others that pay a fair wage( a living wage) not the high paying jobs in our area of around the highest of $9 hr.
The only good pay here is the local government.
They seem to make their own wages out of the blue. If you don't like them then we will offer more to have you sit around with them in their offices that are way to many doing part of a job that someone else was hired for and then split so they could hire someone else and not do to much work for their $80,000 plus jobs.
The worst is that we the people have less done for us than ever and some of the citizens are doing the things our city use to do as part of their jobs..
Enough said..


Date: November 13, 2009 5:45 PM
Story headline: Pupils receive swine flu shots
Comment posted by: ang
Comment:

Would it of been nice to show pictures of the brave childern to help show that there is nothing to fear! Not all pictures of the upset childern.
Some parents just look at the picture and call the school and cancel there childs shot with out reading the whole story.


Date: November 14, 2009 7:40 AM
Story headline: Wolf and Webb concerned over detainees' trials
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

I must take exception to Senator Webb's comparison of Al Qada to the Japanese attackers at Pearl Harbor. The Imperial Navy aviators were uniformed members of a recognized national military force just as he once was (the fact that they carried out their government's policy against our interests has no bearing on their status). Al Qada is not a recognized government and their terrorists are not soldiers.

This has led to the problem at hand. We can't seem to make up our minds what they are (or we just don't have the stomach to). If they are combatants taken out of uniform, then under the usage of war they should be dealt with under military justice. If they are criminals, then they should be dealt with by the civil justice system.

Fish or cut bait, gentlemen.


Date: November 14, 2009 7:44 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Tess Stickels
Comment:

No, Ms. Bishop, it is you who manipulate the facts to fit your argument. I listened to your speech at that phoney-baloney call to action deal. Is that what Jesus would have said? Your tin foil hat looked lovely in the sunlight. Reminded me of a halo.


Date: November 14, 2009 7:52 AM
Story headline: Central going back to Group AA?
Comment posted by: william
Comment:

My question is can,t central make up its mind it always seemed to me when I was in high school that central always thought they were better then us I do agree with that. But you cant everything the wind blows or the football team haves a good year oh I think we can play with these guys. Havent you found out in the past what happen. All the county teams should remain in the same league.I feel yes we have 800 students in school but how many do sports


Date: November 14, 2009 10:10 AM
Story headline: Man receives more than 16 years for selling drugs
Comment posted by: AJBJR3
Comment:

Drug laws are outrageous. 50 grams equals 1.76 ounces. We have to pay 5 or 6 million now for these two DC freaks to live in our jails for 16 and 40 years. As long as they don't sell to minors leave these addicts alone. They will drug themselves to death then it will only cost us $300 each to cremate them. Alcohol is the big killer far beyond all drugs. The government is okay with alcohol though because it has its arms around production so it can collect enormous sums of tax money. Legalize drugs and collect the taxes. We need to supplement my payroll tax taken from my check every week to help our President...cash to shore up 'free enterprise' companies???, cash for junk cars, free health care, anything anybody wants (brace yourselves for mass diseased immigration). The newest job created- government workers to go door to door with food and cash cooking, feeding, and cleaning for millions of lazy drunks that have had their need and desire to fend for themselves and their family neutered.


Date: November 16, 2009 10:52 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Yes, Tess that is exactly what Jesus would say. "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt. 4:17 "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters." Matt 12:30 "The things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man (woman). For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. These are the things which defile the man." Matt 15:18-20 "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and foremost commandment. And a second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets." Matt 22:26

If we, as a nation and individuals, do not turn back to God we are doomed. All of our original laws came from the 10 commandments. And if you look at the 10 commandments the first three (or four depending on which list you look at) talk about putting God first, which then leads into the last seven (or six) which talk about how we should treat our fellow man. Believing in something higher than ourselves allows us to help those around us. Teaching our children that they are no more than animals is destroying them, and making them feel entitled to anything they want is destroying the foundation of our country.

Please let me know which facts I have manipulated to fit my argument. I cannot ever learn to correct my mistakes if they are not pointed out. Considering my whole speech was based upon the quotes of our founding fathers I would be interested to know your interpretation. Also, thanks for your kind words. Since I wasn't wearing a tin foil hat I guess you must have seen a halo. Maybe God is trying to tell you something! Have a good day.


Date: November 16, 2009 11:32 AM
Story headline: Central going back to Group AA?
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

I think if you look a little closer at the article you will see Central isn't given the choice of going back to AA, it's a decision that will be made for them. It's also very frustrating from a fan or parent standpoint in that you can develop little to no consistency in the programs.


Date: November 16, 2009 11:34 AM
Story headline: School Board could tweak grading scale
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Once again the public school system is failing the taxpayer. Instead of spending time and money changing the grading scale and making it easier on students that don't do what they're suppose to do to in the first place, why not actually reform the system because it is broken. I taught for 10 years and left because I could not continue to disregard my values by being involved in something so dysfunctional. The problem with public schools are a lack of accountability from the teachers, students, and administration and a strict adherence to a special interest agenda, the NEA, the National Education Association or as I refer to it, the National Extortion Association.


Date: November 16, 2009 11:43 AM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Ewoks mess up the news
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Newspapers are not declining because of the Internet. They are declining because they have an agenda and no sense of impartiality. If their newsrooms were so great and people wanted to read them, papers would be bragging about their online readership and they would be able to charge for their online editions which they can't do because no one would pay to read them there either. If the NVD charged for their online edition, I would stop reading it all together as I refuse to pay for the print edition now that my dogs are no longer puppies.


Date: November 16, 2009 12:37 PM
Story headline: School Board could tweak grading scale
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

so the kids who get all the answers wrong are given a 50% score....

and they wonder why the kids are bad at math?


Date: November 16, 2009 1:32 PM
Story headline: School Board could tweak grading scale
Comment posted by: John
Comment:

So, if a student will now get a 50 for a 6 week period, why should that student study? Why try? Heck, I could have taken off 2 6 weeks periods (1 for first semester, 1 for last) studying when I went to school then. That's 1/3 of the school year and still pass. Doesn't make much sense to me!!!!
Do you get to do this at your work? I don't think so. What are we trying to teach these kids? How about some responsibility and good habits?


Date: November 16, 2009 2:15 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Ewoks mess up the news
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

I'm inclined to agree with the Fire Eater about what's killing papers such as the New York Times, L.A. Times, The Boston Globe, and others of their ilk. The feeling one often gets reading them is they're trying to kid us. This also the reason a number of TV news channels and major news magazines are losing viewers and readership. The outlets that are doing well are those preceived to be more given to reporting both sides in a story. The Wall Street Journal and Fox News are doing quite well because of this (as much as it outrages the better people).

Up in Pittsburgh, the old, established Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is losing readership and has been passed by the Pittsburgh Tribune Review (contemptously referred to as "that little Greensburg paper" by the fast disappearing Post-Gazette). My opinion, the Trib's readership accepts the fact that the Trib's opinion is to the right, but they trust that it stays on the Opinion page and the news coverage is generally unbiased.

Me, I read four Valley newspapers (including this one) and look over the Richmond Times-Dispatch online each morning. I'll also catch the Winchester TV news broadcast online. The four Valley papers seem reasonable as does the Times-Dispatch usually (it does have its moments on occasion).

The idea wafting its way out of Washington that the Federal government should bail out those too ideological to survive only confirms some of the citizenry's opinion that these are merely outlets for one party's propaganda.

Walt Kelly, Sherwood Anderson, and Hodding Carter Jr. would sneer.


Date: November 16, 2009 3:15 PM
Story headline: Parents learn tactics to protect children from technological dangers
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Sounds like something every parent should attend. It might keep them from losing a kid.

A lot of parents are hung up on being a pal to their children. Nope, doesn't work that way. A mom or dad (and preferably both) is reponsible for properly teaching their children how the world works and how to successfully live in it. This takes as much as twenty or more years of keeping your eye on the ball (there's a bit more to children than the seven minutes of pleasure at the begining).

Ours are all of legal age, but the one still at home uses the computer in the dinning room. The wife and I can see the screen as we tromp back and forth between the livingroom and the kitchen. Admitedly, we don't particularly sweat it anymore, but we still occasionally glance at the monitor in passing. My house, my rules (right, Dear?).

If you love them, keep a sharp watch.


Date: November 16, 2009 3:54 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: CaCaToRy
Comment:

Evangelical right-wingers are basically good people obeying the golden rule. Nonetheless, they will spout chapter and verse, molding the facts to suit the argument, and having done so, then self-proclaim their patriotism, also devoid of supporting facts or actions. Merely standing on a soap box while yelling at the world isn't proof of patriotism. It suggests fanaticism when any opposing voice is met with escalating verbal hostility. The idealism "we are here to save you" has degraded into a seething rage of far-right bullying of anything and anybody not like them; minorities, different religious beliefs, and political foes are your special targets. Coping with your personal demons should be your number one priority.

Bishop, for all your certitude, you are as utterly confused as the rest of us about who it is we’re fighting in government and to what end. Simply put, most of the time we don't know what you're talking about because it is wrapped in the jargon unique to your personal religious viewpoint shared only by a small minority wishing to impose its views on the unwashed majority.


Date: November 16, 2009 6:46 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

I think the outcome of the recent elections and the disenfranchisement with Obama and the congress shows that I am not in the minority. As I asked Tess, please tell me what facts I have molded to suit my argument. Will any of you ever answer a direct question put to you? The only people trying to "save" anyone are the progressive, liberals running (ruining) the country. When have I ever bullied anyone? I don't care what race, creed or sexual orientation you are, that is between you and God, but I do believe in right and wrong and I do believe our Constitution should be interpreted as it was intended.

What personal demons do you think I'm struggling with? I don't know of any. I don't hate you or anyone else on this blog and I am at peace no matter how things turn out, but I'm not going to sit quietly by and let everything I've ever known go up in smoke just so people like you don't call me names. In fact every time you guys call me a tin foil hat wearer, or a right-winger or other name you choose I get a kick out of it. It means I've gotten to you. How much fun is that!? :)

I think you don't know what I'm talking about because you don't want to listen. I'm waiting for answers to my questions. Min Gent hasn't answered. Tess hasn't answered. Whooppee never answers and I bet you won't answer either. There is one certain way to ensure that I don't impose my views on you...quit reading what I write. But please let me know the facts I've gotten wrong first. I'll be awaiting your reply.


Date: November 16, 2009 8:42 PM
Story headline: Woman pleads guilty to embezzlement
Comment posted by: ABS
Comment:

Stay tuned. You ain't seen nothin' yet!


Date: November 16, 2009 9:40 PM
Story headline: Weekend wine-lovers sample the sweetness
Comment posted by: winelovr
Comment:

Garren,

Thank you for the great article. Indeed, Shenandoah has a deep tradition producing quality wines. One of the features that makes us unique is the rich texture of our grapes. Thank you for your coverage and the lively pictures. Cheers!

Veramar Vineyard


Date: November 17, 2009 1:14 AM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: Ewoks mess up the news
Comment posted by: quietwatch
Comment:

Both are contributing to the decline of newpapers. They're not as convenient as the Internet for most people and there does seem to be a political connection.

And there's the instant interaction with other readers, too. That's a huge plus for the Internet.


Date: November 17, 2009 5:27 AM
Story headline: School Board could tweak grading scale
Comment posted by: tnelson
Comment:

While I believe that the intent behind Mr. Rowlands policy is meant to be helpful, I believe that the results of the policy will do more harm than help. Mr. Rowland is quoted as saying, "Educators are not in the business of failing students," in his memo to the school board. I agree. However, I believe that what is more important is that educators are in the business of teaching students, and in my opinion those lessons are measured in more ways than a letter grade. Unfortunately our society has adopted the stance that it is wrong to let a child fail at something, anything... Failure in itself can be a very valuable lesson. If a student is not demonstrating their tested abilities then they do not deserve to earn a higher grade. On the flip side, if a student is truly struggling in a class then we are not doing them any favors by pushing them along. It would be in their best interest to repeat the class so that they have the opportunity to truly learn the material and to be able to apply that knowledge. It is my opinion that letter grades are not designed to define a students character. I believe that they are simply a numerical measure in which to assess the students achievement in the said class. A failing grade should be seen as a red flag that this student needs more help from their instructor, nothing more, and absolutely nothing less.
Please don't take away the opportunity for the students of Shenandoah County to learn the integral lesson of hard work, and the resulting lesson of pride in a job well done. Don't "dummy down" the classroom, our kids are too intelligent for that.


Date: November 17, 2009 9:54 AM
Story headline: Report: Bill threatens Medicare
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Medicare is not a trust fund. It is an unfunded liability just like Social Security. There has never been a trust fund to support either program. The term trust fund was used during the Clinton administration so it could be used as an asset to balance the budget when the money actually never existed. Medicare, medicaid, and Social Security are what's called unfunded liabilities which presently total $105 trillion. That's money that needs to be generated outside of present tax liabilities to keep these programs solvent.

Real health care reform is tort reform, prosecuting fraud, having insurance companies adhere to anti-trust laws, regulating insurance on a nationwide level so all companies can offer all programs across the nation, and most importantly, get Washington out of it!! The United Postal Service lost $3.8 billion last year!!

Valley Health won't have to worry about declining Medicare revenues under the present government proposals because they will no longer exist. Maybe in name only but they will be another government bureaucracy.


Date: November 17, 2009 10:03 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Whooppee
Comment:

Evangelical subculture conservatives are beyond crazy, they reject facts as a matter of faith, believing the earth is 6000 years old and Moses gave pony rides to children on the backs of dinosaurs. People who consistently distort the truth in this way are in no position to lecture anyone about values.


Date: November 17, 2009 10:08 AM
Story headline: Educators less experienced
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

I graduated from Strasburg High in 1987. I taught and coached three sports for 10 years in Fairfax and Spotsylvania Counties. I applied for a teaching position in Shenandoah County every year until 1998 when I left the profession and was never given an interview. I had an excellent record as a teacher and coach with many letters from satisfied parents and administrators and recommendations from teachers and school board members in Shenandoah County and still, nothing. For the past ten years I have been an executive for companies with revenues exceeding $150 million annually and was not even granted an interview for a business teaching position this year. And I live in Strasburg and would pay for the gas to drive to Woodstock for an interview. That would help reduce some of the $371,000 they spent trying to find teachers.


Date: November 17, 2009 11:03 AM
Story headline: Report: Bill threatens Medicare
Comment posted by: Irishman71
Comment:

Well, for starters, "research" has been all over the place. Doesnt' surprise me in the slightest that Republicans find and point to the gloomiest scenario they can find.

That said, I agree that all of the measures mentioned in the first response might be a great help to the healthcare crisis.

Sorry that I have to point this out, but I wouldn't be doing my "job" if I didn't. Isn't it funny that Republicans are feigning concern over a government entitlement program as a reason to find fault with another government program? Oh the irony!!!

Let's also not forget why Social Security is "unfunded". It WAS a trust fund that was raided and depleted. Not standing up as a champion for SS, but let's not pretend like it never WAS a trust fund. Once upon a time it was, but our government apparently couldn't be "trusted" with it... ;)


Date: November 17, 2009 11:20 AM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: Min Gent
Comment:

Ms. Bishop asks why are human beings called animals?

Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species. I was awake in my high school sophomore biology class when Mr. Hawkins began teaching the basics, beginning with the classification system created by Carl Linnaeus, a 16th century Swedish botanist used to identify the organization of living things. Charles Darwins work led to changes in Linnaeus classification system to improve classification consistency with the Darwinian principles. Much later, the category of "Domain" was created to precede 'kingdom". Domain has three categories and refers to bacteria, archaea, or eukarya life forms.

Kingdom has two categories, plant or animal. Simply put for all to understand, the classification process begins with the determination of which kingdom does a living organism belong, plant or animal? Assuming you believe human beings are living organisms, would you say human beings are plants or animals?


Date: November 17, 2009 12:13 PM
Story headline: Report: Bill threatens Medicare
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

I don't recall ever reading any legislation that created a Social Security trust fund but if it can be produced, I will disgress. either way, Irishman71, you're right, the politicians raided the funds for SS and Medicare and they can't be trusted.

Better idea than health care reform, how about Congressional reform?


Date: November 17, 2009 2:10 PM
Story headline: *Winchester bomb scare investigation turns up eggs
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

I refuse...I refuse, do you hear? I refuse to say one word about "egg on the face."


Date: November 17, 2009 3:47 PM
Story headline: *Winchester bomb scare investigation turns up eggs
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

other headlines considered by the NVD for this article, but rejected by the editors, include the following:

"Police participate in hunt for decorated eggs"

"Eggceptional Mystery Hatches on Main Street"

"Cops to Crack Down on Egg Hoaxes"


Date: November 18, 2009 10:26 AM
Story headline: Weekend wine-lovers sample the sweetness
Comment posted by: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawlpZtVKsqAo0G6fk_l5ab4rWcx_n5P-BtQ
Comment:

We were happy to participate in this exciting event, and hope to join similar festivals in the near future. Shenandoah Vineyards is among the "few brave souls who tried once again in the 1970s," and still going strong over three decades later.


Date: November 18, 2009 12:03 PM
Story headline: Report: Bill threatens Medicare
Comment posted by: Irishman71
Comment:

Not that I WANT you to digress, but the OASI is a SS Trustfund created by the Social Security Act in 1939, and the DI is another SS Trustfund that was created by the Social Security Act Amendments passed in 1956... So yes, Social Security IS essentially a trust fund.

That said, I'm all over this "Congressional Reform" thing... Where do I sign? :)


Date: November 18, 2009 1:44 PM
Story headline: * Bradley sentenced to 12 years in teen's slaying
Comment posted by: little one
Comment:

I think that is wrong and I believe he should of gotten more or the death penalty.. Now he will only serve half of his sentence.. Just because his daughter was in love and he didnt like him.


Date: November 18, 2009 2:42 PM
Story headline: Call for Action America hosts Front Royal rally to air grievances, concerns
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Sorry Min Gent you are wrong, I never asked why are humans called animals, I know why humans are called animals...because science says so. My question to you was are you moral, and if so why. If we are the highest evolution of ooze then why shouldn't we be able to do what ever we want to whomever we want, whenever we want. The only reason to believe anything is right or wrong is because there is a higher power holding us accountable. I say human beings are separate from the animals, created expressly by God. You can disagree if you please. God Bless you.


Date: November 19, 2009 12:21 AM
Story headline: *Future of Warren County DSS board in doubt
Comment posted by: sleeveless
Comment:

I think that Social Services is a corrupt arm of our local goverments anyway. They misuse money, give it to those that are not qualified and then when those that do qualify need help -there is none. Let the Churches and non-profits take care of benevolent type gestures. Let's reward people for taking control of their lives in a productive fashion instead of reinforcing wasteful fraudulent behavior of the recipients as well as the administrations. Its ridiculous


Date: November 19, 2009 7:06 AM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: Shadowknows
Comment:

I attended the meeting, where it seemed pretty clear to me Ms. Mathews, who only spoke on behalf of Sloane, Kresge, Ramos and herself, was handing over the duties of the board effective January 1, 2010 to the BOS, gladly I might add.

It's no wonder this board has been ineffective for years and is completely clueless as to their duties. Their comments in this article baffles the minds of intelligent people.

When this announcement was made at the meeting, the Chairperson of the BOS should have accepted their resignation, effective immediately. How much more damage will be done to WCDSS before their reign ends?

Another shocking announcement by Mr. Tracyzk was made about a "lucrative" employment contract provided to Mr. King effective September 1, 2009. When was this contract created? Was it just after the results were learned from the Springsted Study? This contract was prepared by Neal Knudsen, a lawyer allegedly under contract with DSS to handle their CPS, APS and Foster Care cases. In these hard economic times, why is it the WCDSS Board decided to give the farm away to Mr. King? He has use of a personal car, travel expenses, a year salary if dismissed! Is this a conflict of interest on the part of Mr. Knudsen?

Ms. Mathews in her statement clearly said, the Springsted Study didn’t tell us anything we didn't already know. If this is the case, why haven't they made a solid attempt to fix the problems? Because they don't know how. This was very clear in their November 10, 2009 meeting. Originally the WCDSS board was going to this meeting to request funds from the Board of Supervisors to hire Springsted to do a Strategic plan, as they were apparently clueless on how to do this and carry this out.

From Ms. Mathews speech, where she said, "you have the votes." Meaning, the BOS was going to vote to change things . . . I wonder who leaked that information to her? I wonder, was it Mr. Carter? He seems to have a problem leaking information (a past NV Daily article claiming he leaked information from a closed session).

I believe Ms. Mathews' speech (resignation) was circumvention to save face before the BOS voted to dissolve to their board.

I'll repeat the words of Ms. Mathews in her statement to the Board of Supervisors, "Shame on YOU," I hope she was holding up a mirror in front of her when she rehearsed her speech, because, the shame on you was misdirected upon the Board of Supervisors.

Ms. Mathews eagerly blamed others for the failures; never once giving it thought that it may have been she as well as the others on this board for this mess.

I commend the Board of Supervisors for their due diligence in their attempts to fix the broken pieces of the Department of Social Services, and get on the right path for the community.


Date: November 19, 2009 7:39 AM
Story headline: College student fatally shot in hunting accident
Comment posted by: tojo45
Comment:

Anyone who shoots at a noise, and ends up killing and wounding humans ought to be charged with more than manslaughter.


Date: November 19, 2009 8:51 AM
Story headline: Pupils pitch in to prune the park
Comment posted by: Bean
Comment:

And why, after the tragedy of a college student accidentally shot by a hunter is not one of these younger students wearing bright colors? I'm sure the hunter who killed Jess Goode will live in remorse the rest of his life and Jess' family will live a nightmare till they join her in heaven. But still, we send our children out in the woods during hunting season dressed in drab colors? Plug in school administrators, it's a no-brainer!


Date: November 19, 2009 9:22 AM
Story headline: Firefighter arsonists each to serve two years
Comment posted by: Proud to be from New Market
Comment:

Now maybe the New Market Fire Department can go on with their the necessary duties. It is time for healing and I feel the folks who now are in charge are doing a wonderful JOB. Mr. Bell Mr. Sullivan what a disgrace you are to your families and it is sad you have the rest of your lives to be a shame.
New Market Fire department good luck and keep up the good work you are doing! Matt Hughes, Dale Dodson, Fonda Swartz you are very inspirational so GOOD LUCK Y'ALL


Date: November 19, 2009 9:37 AM
Story headline: Bradley given sentence in teen's killing
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

I agree with everything Brendon's mother had to say. I'm very sorry for her loss. It is sad to know that 12 people were so cold-hearted as to let a child murderer off with a slap on the wrist. True justice will be done someday, when all is made whole again.


Date: November 19, 2009 9:52 AM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: A caring citizen
Comment:

Why is Pierceall's comment important? Ben, you don't know when to quit do you?


Date: November 19, 2009 10:44 AM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: Shadowknows
Comment:

I attended the meeting, where it seemed pretty clear to me Ms. Mathews, who only spoke on behalf of Sloane, Kresge, Ramos and herself, was handing over the duties of the board effective January 1, 2010 to the BOS, gladly I might add.

It's no wonder this board has been ineffective for years and is completely clueless as to their duties. Their comments in this article baffles the minds of intelligent people.

When this announcement was made at the meeting, the Chairperson of the BOS should have accepted their resignation, effective immediately. How much more damage will be done to WCDSS before their reign ends?

Another shocking announcement by Mr. Tracyzk was made about a "lucrative" employment contract provided to Mr. King effective September 1, 2009. When was this contract created? Was it just after the results were learned from the Springsted Study? This contract was prepared by Neal Knudsen, a lawyer allegedly under contract with DSS to handle their CPS, APS and Foster Care cases. In these hard economic times, why is it the WCDSS Board decided to give the farm away to Mr. King? He has use of a personal car, travel expenses, a year salary if dismissed! Is this a conflict of interest on the part of Mr. Knudsen?

Ms. Mathews in her statement clearly said, the Springsted Study didn’t tell us anything we didn't already know. If this is the case, why haven't they made a solid attempt to fix the problems? Because they don't know how. This was very clear in their November 10, 2009 meeting. Originally the WCDSS board was going to this meeting to request funds from the Board of Supervisors to hire Springsted to do a Strategic plan, as they were apparently clueless on how to do this and carry this out.

From Ms. Mathews speech, where she said, "you have the votes." Meaning, the BOS was going to vote to change things . . . I wonder who leaked that information to her? I wonder, was it Mr. Carter? He seems to have a problem leaking information (a past NV Daily article claiming he leaked information from a closed session).

I believe Ms. Mathews' speech (resignation) was circumvention to save face before the BOS voted to dissolve to their board.

I'll repeat the words of Ms. Mathews in her statement to the Board of Supervisors, "Shame on YOU," I hope she was holding up a mirror in front of her when she rehearsed her speech, because, the shame on you was misdirected upon the Board of Supervisors.

Ms. Mathews eagerly blamed others for the failures; never once giving it thought that it may have been she as well as the others on this board for this mess.

I commend the Board of Supervisors for their due diligence in their attempts to fix the broken pieces of the Department of Social Services, and get on the right path for the community.


Date: November 19, 2009 10:47 AM
Story headline: College student fatally shot in hunting accident
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

I agree totally with tojo45. My dad was hit by a fool from the big city making what the idiot called "a sound-shot." That he was an idiot was proved when he made the remark to my father (who had just had the shotgun pellets picked out of him) and his brothers at their mother's store. It was suggested strongly (six angry, armed men do everything strongly) that he and his friends head back north and hunt in those regions in the future.

I don't remember if Virginia has it, but Murder 2 might be more reasonable.


Date: November 19, 2009 10:48 AM
Story headline: Pupils pitch in to prune the park
Comment posted by: PineySwamp
Comment:

I agree... I grew up in a very rural area... And my Dad an avid hunter but always wary of other hunters. Made us kids wear bright orange all the time... Even on Sundays when hunters were not even supposed to be in the woods. Just good common sense. But most people don't think about it. We should have public awareness anouncements just like we do for drunk drivers around holidays. How many kids are unaware that rifle season just opened in VA?????


Date: November 19, 2009 11:34 AM
Story headline: College student fatally shot in hunting accident
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

They also missed a charge, it seems. Unlawful wounding of the other student. That might bring a few years.


Date: November 19, 2009 12:43 PM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: wmoore
Comment:

Opinions vary on whether (or not) members resigned???
This isn't a matter of opinion, nor is it brain surgery. Either resignations have been submitted or not. Period.
And Ms. Kresge should not have an understanding that, based upon someone else's remarks, that she herself had resigned. Either YOU resigned or you did not. Someone else does not tender your resignation for you.


Date: November 19, 2009 12:46 PM
Story headline: Bradley given sentence in teen's killing
Comment posted by: tim hall
Comment:

well ,im sad for this boys family . AND I REAL SAD THAT THIS CHILD DIDNT GET TO LIVE HIS LIFE TO THE FULLEST THAT WAS MEANT FOR HIM.this man (coward) has gotten away with cold blooded murder .its a shame that 12 people didnt value this boys life at all .even if they would have given him life in prison with out parole,that wouldnt even begin to satisfy this boys family.the death penalty wouldnt help either.although personally id rather see him in prison for life ,because that would bring misery to him .he may have to do 10 ,11 years with good behavior.TO THE BOYS FAMILY IM SORRY THAT YOU LIVE IN A COUNTY THAT LET YOU DOWN ,THIS COWARD WILL SUFFER GREATLY IN PRISON ,REST ASSURE HE WILL BE TORMENTED FOR HIS ACT OF COWARDICE. iTS A SHAME THAT THE JURY WAS SO SPINELESS TO DO THIS .GOD BLESS YOU,TO THE BOYS FAMILY AND I HOPE THAT God lets you FEEL HIS peace someday knowing your son is with him ,waiting to see you all some day .SO SAD, AGAIN God bless YOU TO THE FAMILY


Date: November 19, 2009 1:11 PM
Story headline: Pupils pitch in to prune the park
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

Give me a break you guys. I have been to Shenandoah National Park thousands of times, and have NEVER seen ANYONE wearing blaze-orange to avoid hunting accidents. Nor has there ever been a hunting accident there. Quit being overprotective of the kids. It is rare to even see a kid holding a handtool these days without all of your misguided coddling.


Date: November 19, 2009 2:49 PM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: concerned citizen
Comment:

It seems that the press only writes what they want you to know. The reporter did not attend this meeting but presumably he watched what was taped. Why not report the part where Ms Mathews took supervisor White to task for never having attended any of the DSS meetings or calling any of the members and talking to them about the problems, just listening to the persons complaining, Pierceall, Slover and Mccloskey. How can you make judgement or help to correct a situation if you don't talk to both sides and hear all the facts. Mr. White had nothing to say to this, but sat grinning while Mr. McCloskey was talking and looked shocked when Ms Mathews said this to him. Its a shame that the Dss Board had to do this, because of one displeased person who had gotten others to jump on the band wagon with her. Do you think these other jumpers really know what happened on both sides or just what they were told. You have citizens who want to do things to help others and look what happens in return for their work. Unfortunately I don't agree with what the board did,because I feel this is giving in to the jumpers, but a person can only take so much personal attacks before thaey feel they have to let go. Personally I don't think the Bos would have abolished this board, but would have given stricter guidelines form the survey. Hpoefully this will not have to happen to others Boards in our community, and these jumpers will find something else to do. If they put as much time into something else as they did this it might really help.


Date: November 19, 2009 3:01 PM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: concerned citizen
Comment:

As for Ms Kresge resigning, this is what they did.
They still will have their meeting in Nov. and Dec. which they will attend and then at the end of the year they will be gone, But her term is up at the end of Dec anyhow, and she is not reapplying for the board.


Date: November 19, 2009 7:43 PM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: hard working employee
Comment:

As a current employee of Warren County Dept. of Social Services, I am dismayed at the thought of Mr. King being guaranteed a year's salary if he is dismissed. Agency employees were told at a recent staff meeting that furloughs and/or layoffs may be necessary due to budget cuts (agency employees have not received raises in 2 years). With caseloads growing rapidly, it is hard to imagine managing with a reduction in staff. It is also difficult to comprehend how Mr. King can tell employees that they may be furloughed or laid off, while he has his own back covered. He is a man without a conscience.


Date: November 20, 2009 7:36 AM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: Windy
Comment:

Good riddens to the board! Totally useless in my opinion.


Date: November 20, 2009 9:11 AM
Story headline: King's newest contract under fire at meeting
Comment posted by: Shadowknows
Comment:

I hope Mr. Mitchell is looking into this contract for it's legality.

What constitutes "gross negligence?" What constitutes "malfeasance in office?"

Ms. Mathews already admitted, Springsted didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.

So, the DSS board and it's director of Social Services knew about the problems and never took corrective action? This was obvious from the state QMR that was recently conducted, where they found repeat findings from their review in September 2008.

These actions in my belief do not constitute the golden parachute that was created as an "Employment Contract," for Mr. King.

Let's not forget what the Special Grand Jury found; many deficiencies within DSS.

Why the sudden need and urgency to create this document? Was it to circumvent the removal of this board and maybe it's last hooray? Was it an insurance policy to insure Mr. King's position?

What other department head in this county has an "Employment Contract," this lucrative?

In these hard economic times for everyone, it is so hard to believe that the DSS Board would act, in my opinion, so maliciously in having this document created.

This DSS Board has given their rubber stamp of approval for too many years. Causing ineffectiveness in their decision making. Was there quid pro quo involved? It certainly appears something is amiss.


Date: November 20, 2009 9:45 AM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: lturner
Comment:

I know what it is like to experience the senseless death of a family member and not receive justice for the crime. 16 years ago, our cousin was killed by a man who received only a three year prison sentence. With parole, he was out in 18 months. Our cousin died because a girl that he had started dating had "forgotten" to tell him that she was married. When he found out, he broke up with her and moved on with his life. However, she would not leave him alone. Her husband who was in the military found out about it and threatened my cousin. Finally after many threats, my cousin agreed to meet the guy to work things out. As my cousin sat in his car (seat belt on) with his friends, the guy jumped on the car and shot him in the head through the sunroof. He also threatened to shoot the others in the car. The jury indicted him for voluntary manslaughter because it was over the guy's wife and supposedly a "heat of passion" crime. It is sad that society puts no value on human life. You can be a drug dealer and get a harsher sentence than for taking someone's life away. My heart goes out to the family. It is something that you can never forget and never get over. You constantly think about the person and about everything that you missed out on with them.. Our cousin's daughter graduated from high school last year, and it was bittersweet knowing that he wasn't there to see it. She was only three when he was taken away..


Date: November 20, 2009 3:27 PM
Story headline: King's newest contract under fire at meeting
Comment posted by: Mountain Man
Comment:

So he gets three months salary if he quits, and a whole year if he is fired. Are you kidding me? Does the WCDSS have job applications on line? I've got to get in on this deal. It sounds like you've got to get in before the end of the year though while Ms Mathews can still sign the contract. What a joke. If there was any doubt as to the REAL root of the problem at DSS over the past few years, this is pretty convincing evidence.


Date: November 20, 2009 3:56 PM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: Windy
Comment:

Concerned citizen, how do you know that both sides of this story haven't been heard? Are you a board member?

The behavior of this DSS board certainly appears to be outrageous and condescending. They've publicly stated, there are no problems at DSS. We've been cleared, they said. When obviously, there are problems and they were found, not only by the State VDSS; and, I may add repeated problems from the previous year, as well as the Springsted Study found many problems.

This board is broken and it needs fixing fast, before anymore damage can be done.


Date: November 20, 2009 6:47 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: Sean
Comment:

And what it all comes down to like it or not.. If all the parents involved in this had been in CONTROL of there children this would not have happend. This child would still be alive. I expect most poeple will not like what I have said but you can not say that it is not true...


Date: November 20, 2009 8:01 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: chris77
Comment:

Imagine the cruel and callous person who would call a grieving mother and tell her to "watch her back". I pray for Mrs. Johannsen to find peace and serenity, if that's possible anymore in this world.


Date: November 20, 2009 10:03 PM
Story headline: Bradley given sentence in teen's killing
Comment posted by: Joe Leonard
Comment:

It is never right to take the life of another unless you fear for your life or the life of another. The man was found guilty and sentensed to jail by a jury. Our system of justice is far from perfect butr it is all we have. Just think how you would feel if this man got off free. The boy and maybe His family should share some of the responibility for this boys death. If the boy had honored the mans wishes and stayed off his property thi9s would never had happened. I am 72 and if someone forbids me to come onto His property i will listen as well now as when i was under 18.


Date: November 21, 2009 8:15 AM
Story headline: Guns, drugs, money seized at city home
Comment posted by: Gauntlet
Comment:

We can only hope, he'll get enough time that it will at least hamper his business.

--------------Come on Judge--------------
It could be a close relative of yours he sells to next!


Date: November 21, 2009 8:22 AM
Story headline: Conkey criticized for lowering rate at B&B for principal of proposed project
Comment posted by: Gauntlet
Comment:

Everyone should be nice about this. Anyone who doesn't think this is a conflict of interest, should be lent some commonsense.


Date: November 21, 2009 2:52 PM
Story headline: Front Royal council riven by turmoil
Comment posted by: Here to Stay
Comment:

Mr. Graham had better watch his back, seems like allot of this back-dooring municipal employees is going around in surrounding areas.

Mayors and Council Members should not have the right to destroy others livlihood and lives just because they do not 'like' the person or have 'friends' they would rather have in the positions, just so their personal agendas can be carried out without any objection.

Elected officials need to remember that they are just that.......ELECTED......NOT GOD. The should have to provide legitimate reasons for firing employees, not just boot them out with only their word as proof! Unless there are grave indescritions, the problems should be resolved.

Citizens should try to become more active in their local governments, than maybe those in 'control' will not be able to rule as they please.


Date: November 21, 2009 2:57 PM
Story headline: Bob Wooten: An open door for oddballs
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Not to mention the ones who show up in the "comments" section. Uh...why are you looking at me that way?


Date: November 21, 2009 5:42 PM
Story headline: King's newest contract under fire at meeting
Comment posted by: Shadowknows
Comment:

Mountain Man, if you thought his contract was bad, it's really worse then you think. If King gives 90 days notice that he's resigning, he gets SIX MONTHS of his salary not THREE MONTHS but SIX MONTHS. Hurry on down and apply for that job before the end of the year.


Date: November 21, 2009 6:19 PM
Story headline: King's newest contract under fire at meeting
Comment posted by: Whooppee
Comment:

It says in the employment agreement if King is offered the position of State Commissioner of Social Services or Deputy Commissioner, the notice provision shall be shortened to 45 days.

Who is kidding who? Considering his reputation, King will have a tough time if he applied for dog catcher. Unless, of course, the Warren County DSS Board is in charge of the state DSS, too. Oh, my god, you don't think........?


Date: November 21, 2009 7:27 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: STRASBURGHIGH_ram
Comment:

12 years is to lenient for a murder conviction. However, even Virginia's death penalty options (electric chair, lethal injection) are just as lenient.

As for his punishment? I think all the citizens of Strasburg should line the sidewalks of main street in town, and then allow Mr. Bradley to walk down the center of the street. No police interaction, no rules, no laws, no questions asked.


Date: November 21, 2009 8:00 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: jm
Comment:

I am so sorry for your loss.I dont understand how the police could have caught Brendon the night before he was murdered, at the Bradley home and not notified you.Brendon was breaking the law.He was a minor.You should have been given the chance to save your son but they "didnt want to get him in trouble" Dear God! If this is true ,the police shares responibility for Brendons death with Jody Lynn Bradley.Please seek counseling,you think they cant help because they may not have been through what you are going through but they can. I know. Brendon would want you to find peace. God comfort you I pray.


Date: November 22, 2009 10:05 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: TRUTH
Comment:

SO I GUESS MY OPINION HURTS PEOPLE SO THEY WONT SEND IT OPEN YOUR EYES WOMAN YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE IS TO BLAME!!!!!!!


Date: November 22, 2009 10:45 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: FIVEHARTLEYZ
Comment:

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CHILDREN , THE YOUNG MAN WAS 16 NOT 5, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT HER TO DO HOLD HIS HAND EVERYWHERE HE GOES ? WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO IS THE DAD WAS A FREAK , HE IS OUT OF CONTROL AND SHOULD FINISH HIS DAYS IN JAIL !!!!!


Date: November 23, 2009 5:30 AM
Story headline: Conkey criticized for lowering rate at B&B for principal of proposed project
Comment posted by: scharles
Comment:

My husband and I own Lackawanna Bed & Breakfast in Front Royal. We also offer a corporate rate for business vistors. We have known Tom Conkey for some time and have worked with him in various types of organizations. We do not believe that Tom would do something uscrupulous to benefit himself above the town's interests. Since I am a member of the Planning Commission, does Mr. Holloway suggest that I not take corporate visitors at my b&b if they plan to do business with the town. How ridiculous. It appears Mr. Holloway is missing the have faith and trust in your fellow workers and employees gene. As his act of vengence proceeds, I think all town employees should take note. You might be next


Date: November 23, 2009 10:56 AM
Story headline: Conkey criticized for lowering rate at B&B for principal of proposed project
Comment posted by: Whooppee
Comment:

What's going on with some of our Front Royal/Warren elected politicians doing naughty things?

Has this become the new accepted norm for ethical conduct? Did it ever occur to Conkey it was appropriate to send those "special" commercial customers to lodge with one of his friendly bed & breakfast competitors? No conflict there, right?

But, it is tough to slap someone's back when they are not lodging with you.


Date: November 23, 2009 4:30 PM
Story headline: Front Royal council riven by turmoil
Comment posted by: Clare Schmitt
Comment:

I was shocked and embarrassed when I read this. The fact that our town government would stoop to this type of behavior is disgusting. Chris Holloway should be ashamed of himself. This is an embarrassment to the town, and the fact that council members would let politics get in the way of our wonderful town like this is ridiculous. It's no wonder we can't keep a town manager with antics like this. Take a look around the town, and tell me again that Mike Graham should go.


Date: November 23, 2009 8:30 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: Anise
Comment:

I think it is more than obvious that in this particular case it was not the lack of control the parents had on the teens. It's clearly the lack of control Bradley had over himself.


Date: November 24, 2009 6:50 AM
Story headline: King's newest contract under fire at meeting
Comment posted by: Shadowknows
Comment:

Unless King is in good with the newly elected Governor, Bob McDonnell, I don't think he'll be offered this job, as it's an appointment from the Governor.


Date: November 24, 2009 7:24 AM
Story headline: Council declines review of Graham during meeting
Comment posted by: Clare Schmitt
Comment:

This article hardly does the town council meeting justice. Vice Mayor Hrbek addresed the supposed issues of truthfulness and said that he had followed up on what Councilman Holloway had told him, and found that there were misunderstandings and misconceptions, that was all. I also didn't appreciate being told by Councilman Holloway that "Ya'll don't know how it is, you only see one side of it...We know everything." A little arrogant, don't you think? I would have liked to see that quote in the paper. The one thing I can agree with Councilman Holloway on is "I am ashamed of the way things have been handled of late."


Date: November 24, 2009 9:50 AM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: Bill Pierceall
Comment:

I wonder what stories those DSS walls could tell? King's empire is crumbling. Now is the time to make the information known. Contact me; confidentiality is guaranteed.


Date: November 24, 2009 11:59 AM
Story headline: Helping hands: C-CAP continues tradition of supplying needy families with Thanksgiving dinner
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

"Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons? Are there no Federally administered programs?"--E. Scrooge VI.

Just shows people giving because they think they should is still the best system.


Date: November 24, 2009 12:42 PM
Story headline: County eyes aid in filling top spot
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

Much like the assessment company that was hired, I'm sure the headhunters looking for Mr. Poling's replacement will find a candidate that will match the BOS agenda of transforming our wonderful rural county into a clone of Northern VA. Politicians and Diapers need to be changed regularly and often for the same reason.


Date: November 24, 2009 2:25 PM
Story headline: Helping hands: C-CAP continues tradition of supplying needy families with Thanksgiving dinner
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Excellent point Walt!


Date: November 24, 2009 3:27 PM
Story headline: County eyes aid in filling top spot
Comment posted by: Rebecca
Comment:

I am baffled by the fact that we feel we cannot do our own hiring without the expense of a consultant firm - expecting the cost to be great by both means of time and money. I sincerely hope the December 8 meeting results in the best genuine interests of our County residents.


Date: November 24, 2009 7:13 PM
Story headline: Mother of slain teen won't rest on her conviction that the killer's punishment didn't fit the crime
Comment posted by: TRUTH
Comment:

thats just bull i have 2 kids and i would do anything in the world to protect them.Im not saying i will kill someone but if the law couldnt do there job then its my job as a parent to take of them.So im sorry you lost your son but there are more people here to blame than jody!If you disagree than you have a hard time understanding the truth and if you dont know all parties like i do then you cant began to imagine what jody went through with all of this and i feel he shouldnt be serving time alone and thats the truth!


Date: November 24, 2009 9:34 PM
Story headline: County eyes aid in filling top spot
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

This is so ridiculous. You mean the people "serving" in the county government are so inept that they lack the judgment to hire Poling's replacement? If they need some common sense and good judgment, hire me to find the replacement. I've been out of work since July and can use the money. Conrad, call the Daily, John has my permission to give you my name. You've known me for 30 yrs.


Date: November 25, 2009 10:14 AM
Story headline: Councilmen still uneasy over Graham
Comment posted by: caveman5974
Comment:

It appears a few of our town councilmen didn't get the very impassioned public sentiment Monday night. Perhaps they prefer the voters deliver the message to them in a more direct manner. As citizens, we are sometimes subject to the personal agendas of our elected representatives whether they intend to serve one term in office and 'make their mark' or run in hopes of being elected again.


Date: November 25, 2009 10:46 AM
Story headline: Councilmen still uneasy over Graham
Comment posted by: Otto Skorzeny
Comment:

It is obvious as to what is happening here. Take a look at Wilkes Berre

This entire thing is a scam. Why would anybody want to put, out of the clear blue sky (of which we don't have) a solar plant? Especially since none of the guys involved have ever done anything like this and that 84% of all solar panels are made in China.

The Councilmen finally went over the line with their greed. There are already rumors that the State and Feds are investigating this.


Date: November 25, 2009 11:47 AM
Story headline: Councilmen still uneasy over Graham
Comment posted by: Clare Schmitt
Comment:

I would have been surprised if anyone on the staff did get up and speak either for or against Mr. Graham. I am sure staff members do not want to take sides. It wouldn't be a very good idea career wise. We've seen what happens when someone has a personal vendetta against a staff member. I sure would hate to see what happens when our councilman decides to belittle someone in public, or air dirty laundry, because if that's not what Saturday's paper was, then I don't know what is. Furthermore, I am a little disappointed in how these stories have been covered, they seem pretty biased to me. I especially felt that the article following Monday's council meeting did not do justice to the public sentiment & even the councils sentiment about Mr. Graham. There is entirely too much of one person's comments being printed in the paper. What happened to fairly representing both sides?


Date: November 25, 2009 4:10 PM
Story headline: Elves for the elderly
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Dang! Just as I'm preparing to launch into a self-satisfying rant about "Black Friday" and people thinking the true meaning of Christmas is standing in line outside the "Big Bunches of Goodies" megastore to buy their family's love, you folks go and do something that raises my opinion of my fellow man. Talk about a buzz-kill!

I suspect that you, unlike some people who should know better, see Jesus in those you help. Bless you.


Date: November 26, 2009 9:22 PM
Story headline: Woman sues over wait time in heart attack
Comment posted by: DMC
Comment:

Someone needs to do something because it doesn't do any good to complain to the PM on duty. My son was in there with broken ribs after a bad car accident and the x-ray tech made him roll over on the x-ray bed by himself. He was crying when he returned to the room assigned to him. I confronted the nurse and she sent in the PM (person that take complaints). There was absolutely nothing done. Winchester hospital is not staffed enough to take on this area and nobody really wants to go to the Woodstock one in a big crisis.


Date: November 27, 2009 6:49 AM
Story headline: Opinions vary whether DSS members resigned
Comment posted by: Windy
Comment:

After reviewing Ms. Mathew's speech, it appears Ms. Mathews and the rest of the board are just pointing fingers at everyone else for their problems. Not once did she mention they could have been at fault for these deficiencies or better yet, Mr. King is at fault. She blamed the handful of the few; and let's not forget the BOS is at fault for not supporting her! Give me a break Mathews.

Every year Ms. Mathews approved Mr. King's raises for a "job well done." What job could she have been talking about I wonder? It certainly isn't with DSS. Who is scratching who's back on this mess?

The entire board [DSS Board] should be totally ashamed of themselves. I, for one, am glad the BOS are taking the appropriate action.


Date: November 27, 2009 9:40 AM
Story headline: Speed limits could drop on unpaved roads
Comment posted by: deb
Comment:

I think this is a great idea. I wish they would also consider secondary paved roads. We live on Junction Road in Strasburg and vehicles fly up our road. We have several turns on our road and frequently have accidents. Way to go Shenandoah County Board of Supervisors!!


Date: November 27, 2009 10:24 AM
Story headline: Councilmen still uneasy over Graham
Comment posted by: Otto Skorzeny
Comment:

Claire, you are absoluetly right. This newspaper is nearly worthless for things happening in Warren County. The huge fight over Shenandoah Farms is an example and all the allegations of misdeeds, thefts, etc.. A large auto crash in Shenandoah Farms - major property damage - nopem not in this paper. Mototorcycle gang fights and potential for large scale wars beteween gangs - NO coverage whatsoever. That's why wrongdoings ings and potential wrong doings will go undiscovered behind closed doors. What ever happened to investigative reporting? What a w2ast of .50 cents.


Date: November 27, 2009 5:40 PM
Story headline: Woman sues over wait time in heart attack
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Just wait until the government is in charge of your health care/insurance. This will be common place and not just for heart attacks. Check out the book, "Welcome to Obamaland" by James Delingpole to see what future awaits us. He's a British citizens. Watch out for a little bit of bad language but otherwise it's pretty eye opening.


Date: November 27, 2009 11:57 PM
Story headline: College student fatally shot in hunting accident
Comment posted by: KRM88
Comment:

ummm....deer don't make "rustling" noises. you rarely hear them make any sounds, other than the occasional click of a twig breaking. their hooves are designed to go under the leaves when they walk. any real hunter knows this. must've been his 1st time...idiot.


Date: November 29, 2009 1:19 AM
Story headline: Unattended stove was cause of house fire
Comment posted by: Nikki
Comment:

There is a little more to the story then what this article says.. there is more damage then it says.. she was rushed to the ER for smoke inhilation because she went into the burning house to attempt to save her beloved dog. She risked her life to save his but was unable to. The fireman saved him, thank god. She did not leave the stove on and leave the house. She shut it off and even checked it before leaving but it didn't click all the way in the off position. This was a tragic accident.


Date: November 29, 2009 12:46 PM
Story headline: Bob Wooten: If solar is the future, proceed carefully
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Hmm, seems to me I remember something of the sort involving money, a band, and a Professor Harold Hill over in River City, Iowa sometime back.

Thought: days per year of clear weather in Front Royal versus days per year of clear weather in American Southwest. Reliable figures don't lie (though liars often do figure).


Date: November 29, 2009 2:25 PM
Story headline: Speed limits could drop on unpaved roads
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

No need to lower the speed limits, there are already laws on the books. For instance:

§ 46.2-852. Reckless driving; general rule.

Irrespective of the maximum speeds permitted by law, any person who drives a vehicle on any highway recklessly or at a speed or in a manner so as to endanger the life, limb, or property of any person shall be guilty of reckless driving.

All lowering the speed limits will do is create a series of speed traps to fill the coffers of the band of merry spenders at 600 N. Main St. Direct taxation via the reassessment fiasco almost resulted in open revolt, so I suppose the county will use the power of police to obtain needed funds.


Date: November 30, 2009 6:37 AM
Story headline: Warren group decries lack of high-speed access
Comment posted by: JT
Comment:

"The primary goal, Aumente says, is to get the local phone company to expand its DSL Internet service more rapidly."

From experience I can tell you that Century Link (Embarq), DSL has been horrible. For the past 6 months, I've been losing my DSL connection up to 75 or more times per day. The connection is up and down like a yo-yo. After multiple service calls, Embarq has been unable to fix the issue, and basically has said live with it. I am tired of dealing with Embarq's "were the only game in town so deal with it" attitude. Be careful what you wish for, I believe that having no service at all would be less frustrating than using Embarq DSL.


Date: November 30, 2009 10:00 AM
Story headline: Shenandoah supervisors to review policy for compensating farmers
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

More waste of the taxpayers money.


Date: November 30, 2009 2:49 PM
Story headline: Front Royal welcomes shoppers
Comment posted by: mar
Comment:

Blue Ridge Opportunities does a phenominal job in our community. Our daughter attends the Workshop and we are very grateful for their services. I hope this article stirs some interest in using their generous babysitting and gift wrapping services to the community. Believe me, the money goes to a wonderful cause!


Date: November 30, 2009 6:10 PM
Story headline: Shenandoah supervisors to review policy for compensating farmers
Comment posted by: Garden Fool
Comment:

It's not up to the county residents to compensate farmers because a dog kills their livestock. Let them go after the dog's owner. Another example of the poor leadership exhibited by the BOS. This practice should never have been started and should be stopped immediately.


Date: December 1, 2009 9:46 AM
Story headline: Media descends on Salahis' home
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

the media is giving them what they want, their 15 minutes of fame and the potential for a large payout.


Date: December 1, 2009 10:28 AM
Story headline: Cost for plan has GOP up in arms
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

It's nice to see a politician with the guts to stand up to Washington. The governor elect and the Attorney General elect both ran on a pro- 10th amendment platform, so I hope they and others around the country will tell Washington to take a hike with all their unfunded and unconstitutional mandates. In this season of debt, debt and more debt our country doesn't need more, we need less. Opening up commerce between states for health insurance and tort reform would go a lllooonnnggg way to helping fix the problem. It's time to stand up and give back the government's handouts and learn to be independent, individuals once again. And yes I'd happily give up Social Security and Medicare (like I'll see any of it anyway) if they'd allow me to opt out of it, but you can bet if I am FORCED to pay into it I'll be expecting my share (which is a mute point because it won't be there for my generation.)


Date: December 1, 2009 2:23 PM
Story headline: Convicted felon is urged to fight her life sentence
Comment posted by: John
Comment:

Do the crime, Do the time!!!!


Date: December 1, 2009 10:16 PM
Story headline: Cost for plan has GOP up in arms
Comment posted by: Tigman2
Comment:

Our present dilemma, the collapse of our financial system, was predicted a decade ago after the repeal of Glass-Stegall Act of 1933. By 2007, the financial sector accounted for 41% of corporate profit in our economy. Business investment since 2002 has skyrocketed in "Communist" China. Today, it is reported that investors are heavily investing in carry trades overseas that earn 50-70% profit.
Does anyone wonder why there seems to be a lag investing in enterprises that exploit new technology and creates work for our small businesses and job seekers? Without a manufacturing sector for investment to make profit and wealth, what are the growing sectors in the US economy that attract money? Services like healthcare, media, transportation, communications.
Watch what happens when government services become privatized. Dulles Greenway tolls go from $1.50 when the state bailed out the first owner to $3.80 and more soon under the newest foreign private owner. The new governor is interested in tolling Rt 60 between Richmond and Tidewater.
Here's where things are headed - there will be services for those who use relatively unimproved public services and better services for those with the ability to pay more for them.


Date: December 2, 2009 6:53 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

Not that I am a smoker, nor do I enjoy eating around people that are, but I do have one question. Where in our constitution or anywhere else does the government get the right or justification to ban smoking in a private business. If you own a business and you want to allow smoking, you will either draw consumers that will deal with it or change your policy. Whats next, banning smoking in apartment buildings. And just a side note. Why are government offices smoke free except for those of our senators or representatives?


Date: December 2, 2009 8:14 AM
Story headline: Two more charged in flea market gun sales
Comment posted by: Mountain Man
Comment:

The article doesn't state whether these two men are FFL holders so I'm assuming they're just private citizens selling their personal property. Obviously background checks were not conducted and are not required in private transactions. While what these men did was wrong I think it's a bit over the top for the Front Royal police to go after them in this manner and I think it will have a tough time holding up in court. The one guy is 76 years old, all he has to say is that he has bad hearing and didn't hear the guy say he was a convicted felon. The informant says that he acknowledges that, but suppose the man wasn't really paying that much attention to what the guy was saying. A private seller has no legal duty and no means by which to determine if the person he is selling to is a convicted felon. Just like a private person selling a car has no legal duty or means by which to determine if the person he is selling his car to has a valid drivers license.

Again, I'm not saying it's right, only that it won't hold up in court and the police know this. They are only interested in harrasing people selling guns at the flea market. Which is further reinforced by the officer previously checking serial numbers for stolen guns. Did he have any reason to believe the guns were stolen or was he just interested in harrasing them? Sounds like some townie cop is an ATF agent wannabe. How long till he starts calling people selling guns in the Valley Trader and trys to put a sting on them?


Date: December 2, 2009 8:39 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: now-open-eyes
Comment:

even private businesses have regulations they have to follow. I am very excited for this change. No reason for non-smokers to have to suffer just for someone elses bad habit.


Date: December 2, 2009 9:07 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

Gee....where are all the "government can't tell me what to do" screamers?! I guess we pick and choose when we let government in our business and when we get indignant if they do.


Date: December 2, 2009 9:30 AM
Story headline: Convicted felon is urged to fight her life sentence
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

How ironic that a person who suffers from drug addiction can be sentenced to life in prison for USING drugs, but that a child rapist that punches a cop in the face who has a rap sheet miles long can have his sentence of 108 years commuted and released all thanks to Mike Huckabee's "good deed" and then that same person goes out and executes 4 cops!

Our legal/justice system is definitely screwed up to say the very least!! I believe that the legal system needs to stop clogging up our jails and prisons with addicts and come up with a way to actually HELP the addict go straight! Maybe a few years of living in a secured facility to rehabilitate these people and not just for the regular 28 days rehab stay. Manufacturing, distribution especially to juveniles to me, do mandate jail time, but for using drugs??

Lord knows there are plenty of households who have to endure the hell an alcoholic can put a family through and alcoholics are addicts, but of a different sort, so I guess that makes it OK.

Many years ago as reported in this same paper, one article was of a man sentenced to 30 years in prison for growing marijuana but about that same time an elderly woman was sentenced to only 6 years for poisoning and killing the man she lived with so she could inherit from him.
Good ol' justice in the U S of A!


Date: December 2, 2009 9:33 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: ungerdog
Comment:

It will be nice to have an opportunity to go to restaurants that were previously smoke filled. Many choices were off limits because some patrons decided to be inconsiderate of others and fill the air with their nasty smoke. Nobody should be allowed to go to a public place and be such an extreme burden on others.


Date: December 2, 2009 11:00 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Newsie
Comment:

I worked in a small restaurant in high school and college, and now have asthma and COPD that doctors say was likely caused by years of exposure to second-hand smoke, as I HAVE NEVER SMOKED, and developed the asthma as an adult.

I applaud the law, and am just sorry it took so long. No one has the right to endanger others with their noxious output of toxic chemicals and known carcinogens.

To stand by and inhale the fumes from cigarette smoke is not much different than standing still while someone splashes noxious chemicals about the room, while some of them land on your person, and some of the fumes are inhaled by your lungs and absorbed by your skin. The law would never permit that to happen, and now, it will not allow the harmful chemicals and physical properties of burning cigarettes to poison the bodies of near-by non-smokers.

I made sound extreme, but I pay every single day of my life, with bad health and serious breathing issues, because of the stupidity, ignorance and poor choices of smokers who could not, or would not quit...and subjected me to their poison, while I was merely trying to earn enough money to survive and pay my way through school.


Date: December 2, 2009 11:26 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Here I am Tstar. I wasn't going to comment, but since you seem so upset that no "government can't tell me what to do" people wrote in (except b2866) I don't think the government should be telling private business what to do, as long as their not FORCIBLY hurting anyone. If you don't like smoke don't go in, it's that simple. However, if you all are so readily happy to let others tell you what to do I'd like the government to ban cell phones and unruly children in all restaurants. Wouldn't it be nice to eat in peace without screaming kids and ringing and people yelling into their phones. Who else can come up with "nasty" habits we'd like banned?


Date: December 2, 2009 11:27 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Mountain Man
Comment:

"Nobody should be allowed to go to a public place and be such an extreme burden on others."

Since when is a restaurant a public place? Did your tax dollars pay to build and run the restaurant? No, it is a private business and the owners of the business should be allowed to dictate what their clientelle may or may not do so long as it is legal, which smoking is. I'm not a smoker and I hate being around it, but no one has ever forced me to go into a restaurant where others were smoking.

While many choices may have been off limits to you because you didn't want to be around smokers, many more choices were off limits to smokers who wanted to smoke while dining, and now they have no choices at all.


Date: December 2, 2009 11:39 AM
Story headline: Convicted felon is urged to fight her life sentence
Comment posted by: Jer
Comment:

There are many lives destroyed each and every year because of drugs and alcohol and yet our government allows it. We need more treatment centers and resources to get people off of drugs and put them to work. I feel that if other drugs which are readily available are not allowed by law then why is alcohol. Why do we spend so much money on prisons, and police officers to stop drugs? That time and money should be spent stopping violent criminals.


Date: December 2, 2009 11:40 AM
Story headline: Convicted felon is urged to fight her life sentence
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Well, Tstar we agree on something, even if for different reasons. I say if you break the law you should do the time, but I don't agree with mandatory sentences, I think judges and juries should make the call. That said, if the law says drugs are illegal then people need to take the consequences. If you don't like the law get up the nerve to be called all sorts of names and fight it. Get others together who feel like you do and make a difference. Maybe if we actually held ALL criminals accountable and got rid of parole and held elected officials who pardon repeat offenders responsible in some way we could fix the problem. But as long as we keep making excuses for bad behavior picking and choosing which laws we want to follow the law will always be a joke. Perhaps if the government got out of our personal lives and allowed us to reap the consequences of our actions (yes even dying if we choose to abuse our bodies) including going to jail or getting the death penalty if we hurt or kill someone in a drug or alcohol induced stupor people may take the laws more seriously. Until then the system will continue being a joke. However, I know how much you like the government telling us all how to live and taking care of us, so my point is mute.


Date: December 2, 2009 12:05 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: ungerdog
Comment:

Mountain man: It is public in the sense that any member of the public may go there, as opposed to the VFW or Moose Club which are not open to the public. If choices were off limits to smokers because a restaurant didn't allow it, that is too bad for them. My lack of smoking does not hurt the smoker who has been forced to put up with my non-smoking. However, his smoking is causing damage to me. This is a matter of causing physical damage to others. Kim: Unruly kids and cell phones are annoying, but nobody will incur life threatening illnesses as a result of being near them. The government has the right to tell the general public what they can and cannot do if it is causing harm or disrupting the general peace for others. That is where the government's ability to do such things stops. That is also the reason why we have public nuisance laws. Should someone be able to run into a restaurant and scream fire? It is not government property right? Wise up.


Date: December 2, 2009 12:14 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

You are not forced to put up with smoking in a restaurant. you don't have to go. If enough people didn't want to deal with it or complained to management or corporate entities then maybe they would change it on their own. If smoking is causing damage to others then can we expect the government to outlaw it all together or are they too interested in the tax revenue gained by this destructive habit you are forced to deal with. Maybe we can outlaw grease, twinkies, and soda pop. After all people are getting fat because they are forced to eat them.


Date: December 2, 2009 12:31 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: now-open-eyes
Comment:

cell phones and screaming kids are annoying...but they do not pose a large health threat to anyone involved. also, if you don't want a restriction on where you can smoke...dont' go to those places. it's a two way street.


Date: December 2, 2009 12:32 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

The firefighters and ambulances and police that would be called to a place of business would be considered a government necessity, so no yelling fire where there is none is dangerous. Screaming kids running around can cause all sorts of harm, even choking and at times perhaps hearing damage (I'm sure someone will sue for that sometime.) And while there's no actually proof that cell phones cause brain damage they might. Also, a restaurant is private property and they can say who or what comes in. No shoes, no shirt, no service, should the government say that is biased? And while on the subject of breathing nasty air I guess you would be for banning all vehicles in towns, cities and any other confined spaces because they cause tons of breathing problems. Heck we should all just move back to horses and buggies and wood fires, oops can't do that...too much carbon in the air. Where does the madness stop. The government should only do what needs to be done to keep the whole of society safe and while second hand smoke or first hand smoke may affect some people it does not affect all people, even most people except for the obnoxious smell...yes I hate breathing smoke, but if it's so bad then fight to have it banned or leave individuals alone.


Date: December 2, 2009 12:55 PM
Story headline: Council will discuss ruling on meals tax at meeting
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

Did someone say give us money or else? And the sky darkens with circling attorneys eager to litigate annexation.

The Town and County at each others throats? This never gets old, huh?


Date: December 2, 2009 1:06 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Mountain Man
Comment:

Underdog: Just because any member of the public may go in there does not at all make it a "public place". In fact, the owners of the restaurant may refuse anyone they want, most just choose to allow anyone in. You could allow any member of the public in your house and it would not make it a public place. Why can the police not go into a bar and arrest people for drunk in public if it is such a public place? If they get called in by the bar owners for an unruly customer, they get charged with disorderly conduct, not drunk in public.

No one is causing you physical damage because they are not forcing you to be there. If you choose to enter a smoke filled restaurant, knowing full well that the smoke may make you sick, you are causing the damage to yourself. There are many more restaurants that didn't allow smoking than did, so it's not like you didn't have a choice.

Allowing smoking in restaurants is not "causing harm or disrupting the general peace for others" unless those others CHOOSE to put themselves in harms way. Why should the government force choices on us that we should be able to make for ourselves?


Date: December 2, 2009 1:11 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: ungerdog
Comment:

b2866: When you develop COPD because I eat a Twinkie, let me know. Kim: Cars are neccesary to the daily functioning of soceity and government regulates them to no end. Smoking is not necessary, yet harms us all. There is no reward to society by smoking, but the decreased time to get from one place to another is too critical to society to give up. When will the madness stop?


Date: December 2, 2009 2:21 PM
Story headline: Faulty sprinkler soaks gym floor
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Hello,
Why is this being brought to our attention in the first place. This should be a insurance issue
with their provider..
Or are we not required to have insurance since we can just raise a rate on something to let the public pay for it?


Date: December 2, 2009 2:32 PM
Story headline: City officials call on SCC to deny request from Allegheny Power
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Hello,
It does not make a difference if they change this or not. Our electric will still be out of site
like it is now and continue to be.
The only thing that this would change is this will not let our Winchester City officials put the screws to us and always use it for raises to fund more unwanted projects in our area that the tax payers can pay for...


Date: December 2, 2009 3:31 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: 91664
Comment:

Most of those who demand to exercise a right seldom elect to do so with the implied sufficient level of responsibility. There is an old legal axiom that says “one’s right to strike another in the face, extends to the precise point of contact”. It is unlikely that anyone can sway another’s decision to willingly inhale poison in to their lungs. I can’t make someone wear a seatbelt or a bicycle helmet or recycle for that matter. Of course I have a choice to dine in a smoke free establishment, just as I have the choice to eat a healthy diet (in reference to making soda pop and Trans fat laden foods illegal). I do not however have much of a choice about paying exorbitant health insurance premiums resulting from those demanding their right to knowingly inhale, ingest or otherwise participate in risky behavior. Perhaps when we stop focusing on our “rights” and start focusing on being better keepers of our bodies, our brothers and our planet we will all be better off.


Date: December 2, 2009 5:34 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: JT
Comment:

"Mountain Man: Since when is a restaurant a public place? Did your tax dollars pay to build and run the restaurant? No, it is a private business and the owners of the business should be allowed to dictate what their clientelle may or may not do so long as it is legal, which smoking is."

A restaurant becomes a public place when the owner applies for a business license to operate an establishment to serve food to the public. A privately owned business does not make it non-public place. If the owner of an establishment wants to have a private smoking club, so be it, but don't open the doors to the public and then cry foul when the patrons are tired of being exposed to second hand smoke.

I for one am glad that smoking has been banned from public accessible restaurants. I can finally go out and eat a meal, and not go home smelling like a filthy ash tray. If someone wants to poison their body, that is their right, but they don't have the right to expose the rest of us to their affliction.

This law has been a long time coming. Horay!


Date: December 2, 2009 6:24 PM
Story headline: Judge rules town can't collect meals tax
Comment posted by: Jenna
Comment:

Wake up Front Royal and Warren County...this is not the good ol boy county that it was 15 years ago...and I am sure this is not going to be the last lawsuit brought against the town or the County. This county is going to be an extension of Northern Virginia very soon and many faces who think they are so prominent now, will be forgotten faces soon enough! What a joke that the town and county THINK they can take on big corporations - again wake up call! The town and county have some serious issues...crime for one..we've had how many murders in this county this year...and NONE solved, not to mention some of the departments here have serious issues...Social Services, Sheriff's dept (heck, half of the deputies and town officers can't even make the height to weight ratio, and could not be signed on to reputable law enforcement agencies). Hopefully this be help the town and the county progress and realize that they don't own the world!


Date: December 2, 2009 9:15 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: impeachobama
Comment:

Mountain man, Police CAN and Do enter a public building (bar) and arrest for Drunk In Public..It doesnt happen that often but if are in a building that is open to the public then you are considered DIP...


Date: December 2, 2009 11:04 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

If you think my cigarette was offensive, wait till you see my spitter. this is just one more example of the infringement of rights by Government at the hand of liberals like Tim "Obama-Lite" Kaine.


Date: December 3, 2009 12:14 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Twitch
Comment:

This is a law slowly being passed nation wide, although smoking has become less of an accepted social norm in today's society it is refreshing to see an article written with both sides of the issue being represented!


Date: December 3, 2009 1:34 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: KRM88
Comment:

THANK YOU KIM!! Couldn't have said it better myself.

To Newsie: COPD and asthma are genetic and usually random medical conditions. I have known many people who do not smoke, nor have they been exposed to it much, who have had asthma/COPD. My grandmother never smoked 1 cigarette in her life and has had lung cancer twice. My fiance's 75 year old grandfather has been smoking since he was a young teen and has no medical problems other than a bad back. I like how your doctor said second hand smoke was "likely" the cause of your problems. He told you that because it was the best thing he could come up with. You cannot prove that secondhand smoke causes breathing issues. I was diagnosed with asthma AND COPD less than 1 year after I started smoking. You can't tell me that less than 1 year of smoking less than 1/2 pack a day caused this.

To now-open-eyes: Previously, I WOULD go somewhere else if a restaurant didn't allow smoking. Many people like myself enjoy having a cigarette while waiting for their food, or while having coffee. Now I don't have a choice. Some of you people act like smokers are bad people and that you're better than us, and neither is true.

To everyone: I have been saying for a long time that America is not a free country anymore. This is just further proof that it's not, and hopefully people will realize it one day. The government gets to control us because people like underdog let it, and actually seem to enjoy it. Seriously, no smoking in a bar??? That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.


Date: December 3, 2009 9:32 AM
Story headline: Supervisors respond to suggestion to split tax
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

The local hardware store reports gold-rush sales on grinding stones and axes. Lost $600,000? Eeeuuu, that's gonna be bloody. Take and give or give and take? Another fine mess you're getting us into, Ollie. Here's your axe and grind stone.

OK, if you guys just raise the meals tax to 8% county-wide and split 50-50, taxpayers will never know what hit them, you got "your" money back, Appelbees, TGIF, Cracker Barrel, et al will collect the tax, their operating costs will go down with the fees removed and they will be holding the same monthly bag of money for you to keep on collecting and diners paying the tax will enjoy their meals just as much as before, whew, and after all, the money is for a good cause making sure the little children get the best education bloated budgets can buy.

No band aids needed. You will waste your money and political credibility with the axe fight deal.



Date: December 3, 2009 10:02 AM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: Freedom4All
Comment:

This Virginia Gun Owners Coalition is unbelievable. Guns are being sold to convicted felons and their only concern is making sure that guns can continue to be sold this way in the future. So let me get this straight...it's just fine to sell "dad's gun collection" to convicted felons as long as you know nothing about their background (because the NRA provided you with a loophole so you don't have to do a background check)? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...


Date: December 3, 2009 10:40 AM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: Heather
Comment:

I think Mr. McHugh should be very happy that these guys were caught. Selling to convicted felons makes all gun sellers look bad. And does he really want convicted felons running around with guns? Please don't overreact, Mr. McHugh. No one is trying to take your guns away, even though we'd certainly be better off with stricter gun laws.


Date: December 3, 2009 10:45 AM
Story headline: Report: River, fork contaminated by mercury discharge
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

What will we do when people start throwing away all the "green" lightbulbs that have mercury in them? Won't that cause great contaminiation? One step forward two steps back.
BTW I absolutely hate the new "green" bulbs, too bad we won't have a choice in a few years.


Date: December 3, 2009 4:01 PM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: JD
Comment:

Consider this; Austalia passed a law banning all gun from citizens. duriing the first year of passage, the state of Victoria had a homicide crime rate increase to 300%; The entire country had an in creace of 44% in homicides; 1.8 per=1,000 suicide rate, that is safe society by any standard and far low. Elderly Adults became easy victims of burgarly. I think one gets the picture here. The second amendment will prevail in the US. however; If a citizen chooses to sell or give a gun to anyone, he/she is not requiered to know or ask if the purchaser is a convicted felon. You cannot and will never stop convicted felons from obtaining guns. Like drugs, they will always be obtainable, but at a cost.


Date: December 3, 2009 4:32 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

I smoked for 20 years, I stopped for 20 more. I am the world's greatest self-appointed authority. Don't believe it? Just ask and I'll tell you.

Tin-foil hat wearing right wingers imperfect understanding of the basics of law that govern personal rights versus society's rights is the foundation of the blathering that serves as their political platform for defending individual rights against what they believe to be intrusive government meddling, telling them they can not blow tobacco smoke someplace where it hurts another person. The gears engaging comprehension do not work well in feeble minds.

As always, telling a tin-foil hat anything against their wrongheaded stubborn beliefs is sure to garner loud protests. There is only one thing worse than being wrong....being wrong at the top-of-your-lungs...if you have any available after enjoying your cigarettes.

Smoke tobacco, spit tobacco, sell guns to felons, the sky is falling, a black man is president, and the Tin Foil hats are running amuck. This never gets old, huh?


Date: December 3, 2009 4:33 PM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: https://me.yahoo.com/a/T9RN9U8vg4_D4Ei9RJ9Yf5b8pd8vCQc-#215e4
Comment:

There is no loophole in the law. You have been able to privately sell your firearms since this country was founded. It has never been illegal at any point in time and no loophole was ever created by the NRA {That's right Freedom4All}.

It became illegal for felons to own firearms in 1964, however, private citizens do not have the means to conduct background checks before they sell their privately owned firearms and neither did licensed gun dealers prior to the creation of NICS instant background check system in 1994.

If these people mentioned in the article knowingly sold firearms to convicted felons than they should be punished accordingly, but if they had no way of knowing then it was an honest mistake and they have broken no law such as the thousands of firearm dealers that did not do background checks prior to 1994.


Date: December 3, 2009 4:34 PM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: Freedom4All
Comment:

Australia?

In 2004, Australia had an overall homicide rate of 1.52 per 100,000 population. The U.S. rate was 5.50.

In 2004, Australia had a gun homicide rate of 0.26 per 100,000 population. The U.S. rate was 3.96.

In 2004, Australia had a gun death rate of 1.44 per 100,000 population. The U.S. rate was 10.07.

Nor has Australia experienced a single mass shooting since enacting tougher gun laws following the Port Arthur massacre. We have multiple mass shootings every week in the U.S.

Bottom line: Americans are far more likely than Australians to be murdered and/or shot to death.

You guys are anarchists, plain and simple.


Date: December 3, 2009 5:47 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Jacques you must know Whooppee. Do you guys get your talking points from the same place? Huffingtonpost maybe? Get some new names. Tin foil hat went out with "The X-Files."


Date: December 3, 2009 5:53 PM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Your statistics are correct Freedom4All, but did you bother to look at all of the other crime statistics in Australia? Every other kind of crime has gone up, up, up including violent robberies, rapes, etc. Perhaps if law abiding citizens could still have guns these crimes would go down. Anarchists? Look up the definition it means NO government, those of us opposed to more stringent gun laws want LIMITED government as our founders intended. Taking away guns is not the answer, giving people a moral base and foundation is the answer. Sadly, America has given itself over to immorality. If people valued life more...all life these things wouldn't happen. (They didn't happen so much before the 60's a time of moral decline.)


Date: December 3, 2009 7:25 PM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: cardmaster
Comment:

No, you would NOT be better off with stricter gun laws. It is astounding to me how many people do not realize that no matter how many gun laws there are, the criminal WILL ALWAYS MANAGE TO HAVE THEIR GUNS! They don't CARE about gun laws! They DO think twice if they even Think that a potential victim May be armed! I am a member of VGOC, and I think the point that Mike is trying to make is that it should be REQUIRED to have some type of EVIDENCE (this IS still America!) to PROVE that the Felon did, indeed, let it be known that the is a Felon. Without that, selling to a Felon is nothing more than an honest mistake. The Front Royal police are being the very thing that gives All police departments a bad name-overbearing, overzealous, hick cops.


Date: December 3, 2009 10:00 PM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: Just Me
Comment:

I'm not saying that the people selling the guns were in the right, however, I would like to at least see the evidence against them. It seems a bit odd that one person targeted 5 merchants (perhaps he had an axe to grind). I think we really need more than a convicted felon's word.


Date: December 4, 2009 1:20 AM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: JD
Comment:

I beleive (Freedom 4All) has missed a simple and logic point, ie; a 300% increase in homicides in Victoria alone. A 44% increase in the nation. These are sample and early results thus far. I don't know as though we really want to see the results of a newer survey. Regardless of what the US rate of crime is, I can only image Australia catching or surpassing the US with crime and the use of firearms. Bottom line is that with this much increase in crime in Australia, it can logicaly only increase the homicide rates as well. The saying being; when you take guns away from law abiding citizens, then only your criminals will have them, again, at any price. And what do you gain (fredom 4all) with this name calling and judgeing others for their opinions? anarchists?


Date: December 4, 2009 1:20 AM
Story headline: Gun activist worried by town arrests
Comment posted by: JD
Comment:

I beleive (Freedom 4All) has missed a simple and logic point, ie; a 300% increase in homicides in Victoria alone. A 44% increase in the nation. These are sample and early results thus far. I don't know as though we really want to see the results of a newer survey. Regardless of what the US rate of crime is, I can only image Australia catching or surpassing the US with crime and the use of firearms. Bottom line is that with this much increase in crime in Australia, it can logicaly only increase the homicide rates as well. The saying being; when you take guns away from law abiding citizens, then only your criminals will have them, again, at any price. And what do you gain (fredom 4all) with this name calling and judgeing others for their opinions? anarchists?


Date: December 4, 2009 6:52 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

Why when someone disagrees with the government do they become tin hat wearing right wingers. Well, I guess thats what they are called when they disagree with a democrat. What does the right call you? I remember, a Clinton kool-aid drinker. I don't own a tin hat, I'm not a right winger, I don't think Bush bombed the towers, and I don't think Obama is the anti-christ. I can't stand to be around cigarette smoke and on a personal level I'm glad the ban went into effect. My question is still this. How can the government dictate what a restaurant allows when it is not against the law. I know smoking kills people, so does alchohol though the statistics are 4-1. Do restaurants stop serving alchohol because people cannot be responsible? I'm just saying I think the business should be able to make the choice and we as consumers can either choose to frequent that business or not. If they aren't making the money they will change their policy or someone else will buy them when they go out of business and change it then.


Date: December 4, 2009 8:12 AM
Story headline: Daily Grind franchise to file Chapter 11
Comment posted by: Janet
Comment:

I think its important to note that while the corporate Daily Grind is going through these legal issues, it has little to no effect on the individual stores. Main Street Daily Grind in Front Royal for example, will continue to open and do business every day, remain active in the community, and operate in a positive manner. I'm sure many of the other Daily Grinds are doing the same. I would suggest that while the corporate offices sort out their legal issues, that patrons continue to enjoy their coffee and support their favorite stores.


Date: December 4, 2009 8:16 AM
Story headline: Wolf: Dept. hiding truth in dropped prosecution
Comment posted by: Gauntlet
Comment:

Rep. Frank Wolf, is showing the two sides to the Department of Justice.

Or is this Affirmative Action at work again?


Date: December 4, 2009 8:22 AM
Story headline: Traffic stop leads to immigration charges
Comment posted by: Gauntlet
Comment:

The United States of America is being eyed by terrorists 24/7.
Yet we have the slackest border control of any country!

We should pray for security, no matter your God!


Date: December 4, 2009 11:00 AM
Story headline: Town weighs options during closed session
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

When is a rose not a rose? Metaphysical semantics?

The corridor restaurants did not collect 8% meals taxes, 4% for the County and 4% for the Town?

The corridor restaurants DID collect a 4% meals tax and paid it to the County?
The corridor restaurants DID NOT collect a separate 4% meals tax for the Town?
All other restaurants collect a 4% meals tax for their respective governments?

The Town bills the corridor restaurants for water and sewer service.
The Town adds a surcharge "fee" to the water-sewer bill.
The "fee" is computed to be the same amount as the County received from its 4% meals tax collected by the corridor restaurants.

The corridor agreement tried to say the "fee" was not a tax, it was in lieu of a tax? It was phrased this way because the Town has no jurisdiction outside its borders to impose taxes of any kind. Therefore, the corridor restaurants could not collect 8% meals taxes, 4% for the County and 4% for the Town.

The 4% corridor restaurant meals tax money received by the County came from customer wallets?
The fee money added to the water-sewer bill paid to the Town came from the restaurant's pockets? Oopps, there's your problem.

Finally, Judge Huff said naughty, naughty, you can't rename a tax as a fee because a rose by any other name is still a rose?

If all of the above is correct.......Well, everybody, lay down the thesaurus and get back to the drawing board. And don't forget your new axe and grindstone.

This never gets old, huh?


Date: December 4, 2009 4:55 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Irishman71
Comment:

Those claiming that this is somehow a "violation of their rights" need to study up on the Constitution a bit... Namely take a VERY close look at the 10th Amendment.

Those power not afforded to the Federal Government belong to the State.... PERIOD.

The State of Virginia passed this law. It's legal and within their rights to do so. Just because you don't like it does NOT make it a "violation" of any right you may think you have.


Date: December 4, 2009 8:17 PM
Story headline: Traffic stop leads to immigration charges
Comment posted by: OnePatriot
Comment:

Nothing will be done about securing the borders until our politicians stop playing politics with immigration and do something about the illiegals already here. The message right now is if you don't get caught you can stay and maybe if you're here long enough we'll grant you citizenship. Oh and by the way we'll pay for your health care, schooling, and even give you assistance for housing, etc. If you get caught well just keep trying and one day you'll make it. Besides our politicians have more important things to worry about like paying cash for clunkers!


Date: December 5, 2009 12:07 AM
Story headline: Traffic stop leads to immigration charges
Comment posted by: judyboody
Comment:

Deporting illegals back to their home country obviously doesn't work. Let's try deporting them to some other country where it will be more difficult for them to cross our borders again. Hmmmm... how about Australia? Greenland? Figi? Obviously some of the men described in the article are career criminals and should be separated from the rest of society. Maybe we could find a nice deserted island for them somewhere?


Date: December 5, 2009 3:32 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: KRM88
Comment:

It also says that one day the government will get too powerful and we will have to overthrow it.


Date: December 5, 2009 9:52 AM
Story headline: Suspect in home invasion cuts deal
Comment posted by: Newsie
Comment:

I don't know any of the victims of this case, but I feel for them, and cannot imagine how traumatic it must be for them that this case has taken so long to come to justice. It has been THREE YEARS, and it is becoming traumatic for me, a concerned citizen, to even read about it over and over in the paper as it slowly winds it way through the legal system.

Please, let's wrap this up, for the sake of the victims!


Date: December 5, 2009 12:56 PM
Story headline: Vineyard owners respond to restrictions
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

What's going on in this country? Why are the governments on all levels purposing trying to destroy economic opportunity for small businesses? Mr. Mitchell would do well to advise Mr. Staelin and the rest of the board of Dillon's Rule and how it restricts the powers of local governments in the Commonwealth.


Date: December 5, 2009 10:44 PM
Story headline: Supervisors respond to suggestion to split tax
Comment posted by: Tom Conkey
Comment:

That's too easy. State law limits the amount of meals tax a county can charge to 4%. Rats!!


Date: December 6, 2009 1:45 AM
Story headline: Party-crashing couple in Warren court
Comment posted by: lotsapaws
Comment:

I think that the Salahi's fifteen minutes of fame should be over! The media has given them exactly what they are craving-- attention. I bet if the media were to ignore the Salahi's-- they would just go away. Time for more news-worthy topics!


Date: December 6, 2009 9:38 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

The next time a 4-some of Tin Foil Hats want to have dinner at a restaurant, I'll buy IF you allow me and 3 of my friends to have dinner with you. One of us will smoke a cigar and blow smoke over the table, another will bring his spittoon to expectorate his chew of snuff, another will fire up his pipe with one of those sugary smelling aromatic blends, and to top off your dining pleasure, I will cough up a lung covered in black goo. Bon appetite, my Tin Foil hat wearing friends.

And for dessert, nothing like the aroma of lemon pie with a Swisher Sweets fuming in the ashtray. The meal will be finished when we quench our unfiltered Joe Camels in the dregs of our coffee cups. Ahhh, it doesn't get any better than this, huh?

We should do this again, whaddayasay? Maybe you could visit our church and be saved? We do it better than all the others put together because smoking is allowed in the pews and during communion. The smoke rising from the choir makes them look like a steam calliope. Unfortunately, they don't actually "sing" anymore, more like a husky croak in unison.


Date: December 6, 2009 1:21 PM
Story headline: Warren group decries lack of high-speed access
Comment posted by: Dennis
Comment:

There a lot of push to get broad band to homes but the politics are missing the last mile problem. I have cable just .5 mile (half a mile) from my estate but they won't run that last half of a mile because they say it's not worth it. And there's no one local to talk to try and work out a deal, or they won't even come out and see there's 20+ homes in the area. I sure hope we get some publicity for this issue not just for our area but for the whole of the U.S. this last mile is like the old power and phone lines.

-JT I would be happy with even bad unlimited service than no service.

- Century Link if you read this why not work on a T1 or fractional T1 for residential come on let's make some money.. I mean lets come up with some creative way to provide service instead of saying to bad!


Date: December 6, 2009 2:10 PM
Story headline: Party-crashing couple in Warren court
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

This thing is unraveling like a badly knited sweater.


Date: December 7, 2009 2:42 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Jacques, please could you get a thesaurus and learn some new names. Tin foil hat is getting old. If you can answer this question, without name calling, please tell me if you think it would be OK if enough people got together to ban automobiles, because they kill more people every year than cigarettes and legal guns together, would you jump on the bandwagon? After all it might be nice to have to slow everyone down and ride in an open coach breathing in all the nice, new, fresh, non smoke and emission filled air. I know automobiles make our lives better and easier, but isn't the safety of the many more important than the pleasure of the few?

Of course this is a silly question, but instead of taking away people's legal rights to smoke by the government, let individual establishments decide if they want smoking or not. Then you can go to the restaurants with no smoking and leave the smokers alone. While I HATE cigarette smoke and cigar/pipe smoke, as long as it is legal I will defer to the establishments to decide who their patrons are. If you are so disgusted by smoke why not put on your "tin foil hat" and get a group together to change the law...or are you to lazy to try and make a difference?

And Irishman I don't recall anyone saying that the smoking ban was unconstitutional, just government overstepping it's bounds. If they believe smoking is so bad they should work on legislation to ban it completely, not just incrementally attack one group of people partaking in a legal activity.


Date: December 8, 2009 9:06 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

Smokers rights? Nowhere in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights does it say citizens have a right to smoke. If you disagree, the US Supreme Court welcomes lawsuits claiming a loss of a Constitutional right.

Every day and every issue is Armageddon if you wear a Tin Foil Hat. When the sky fails to fall, the likely outcome of every shiny hat loosing argument is "change the topic". Here, Queen of the Tin Foil Hats, take this coloring book and go sit quietly in the corner. We'll call you when you're needed.

Did the ban on smoking go far enough? It has been common experience to see people standing around outside building entrances smoking during their work break. Other people entering the building on business must walk through the haze of second-hand smoke to reach the door. Some states require smokers to remain at least 50 feet away from building entrances while smoking.

The worst building entrances with the most smokers? Courthouses. Perhaps Tin Foil Mad Hatters will make the obvious (to them) connection smokers are criminals?


Date: December 8, 2009 10:18 AM
Story headline: Front Royal council gets updated proffers
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:


Vazzana: "...understand the business concepts involved".
Our poor Town Council, the staff, and the planning commission just arrived in town riding a turnip wagon? Bring in the dog and pony and let the show begin.

Tewalt: "...so we would be able to understand the proffers more efficiently".
Is our poor mayor is still under the effects of the anesthesia from his heart surgery? Bartender, black coffee for everybody and open some windows to clear out all this smoke. We need to see ourselves in the mirrors.



Date: December 8, 2009 10:43 AM
Story headline: School wins prize for going green
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

So if we, the citizens of the county, saved $180,000 then why does the county elite feel they need to tax us more and more?


Date: December 8, 2009 11:52 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Jacques, you are ridiculous to the extreme. Perhaps you should read your comments and realize it's you that you're talking about.
TIN FOIL HATS! TIN FOIL HATS! TIN FOIL HATS! MMM..MMM..MMM!


Date: December 8, 2009 11:53 AM
Story headline: School wins prize for going green
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

They tax us more and more, because we're stupid enough to keep voting them into office! Only the citizens should go with less, never the government...don't ya know?! :)


Date: December 8, 2009 11:56 AM
Story headline: Berry icy
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

The photographers of this paper should be commended for their work. With all the crazy news we read it is always a pleasure to look at the beautiful pictures of nature printed on this page. Keep up the good work, it's always inspiring!


Date: December 8, 2009 12:27 PM
Story headline: Agency sued for failure to deliver
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Hello,
I am elated about this situation..
Why would we ever think that the City of Winchester would ever see that this was
taken care of at time of business deal?
If it was another person this happened to
i am sure they would have told you to get
it in writing and follow through with the
game implimented to make sure it was completed.
I guess this will just be something else passed
on to the citizens to pay for with a tax increase
of some kind!!!!


Date: December 8, 2009 1:01 PM
Story headline: Council expects to select new manager
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Here we are again..
This is our city's way of thinking,and that is why we waste so much money we don't have(the city says) but always find it in monies set aside..
1. Why pay someone the same amount for a part time job that can run itself for awhile as ussual. We hire someone that wants our city to become a metropolis of DC.and our citizens do not want but this will put higher pay into the local governments pockets so be it.They are way over paid now. Our industry of jobs in this area cannot pay for this local government but they don't care if you live in poverty as long as it is not affecting their lives.
2. Why are they always trying to find a way for these businesses not to pay taxes or property tax,but can have CEO's and Board member be paid enormus salaries and bonuses in these organizations.If they can be paid these amounts they can pay property taxes. SU buying everything on the East side of town (No Tax)and when time comes to sell property or move where does the profit go?Let's see who's pockets get full first...
3. I would like to see a audit of our City and County's funds. I had a website to track the stimulas package money usuage of our City and County but somehow is not in use anymore. They were to update use of money starting in October but never did,site got lost..
I have yet seen jobs created for our area, but jobs kept or just moved around because of downsizing of positions in our Local Gov..
to protect them.They want use to give them donations for fallen comrads families and they had better insurance than i ever had. I have sempathy for their family but i am sure they will not look after mine when i am gone with no insurance because i can't afford it?
Enough said, but really fed up with our Local Goverment choking our citizens for their expenses.They should have pay cuts instead of raises in these times.


Date: December 8, 2009 1:17 PM
Story headline: City outlines its snow procedures
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Hello again,
Here is another example of our local gov..
We do not have the equipment to do the job..
Allo the monies we give to other localities to do the work for us.
We will pay enourmus amounts of money to sit on road and wait for the snow and then most of the removal is farmed out and not by the locals to make money to pay to the city for giving this work to other outsiders..Does this make sense?
I have watched people from Richmond and other far away towns doing our work in our city..
Why do we have a Maintenance Dept. in our town if they can't do anything.
The monies saved buy doing some of the work ourselves could more than buy the equipment to do many of these jobs. We could have a heavy equipment arsenal...We could be the one going to other areas with the equipment to get the job done..What is wrong with this picture?
I guess our local gov. can just let departments sit and collect their well deserved salaries for nothing as always...
Lets raise some more taxes so we can really sit back and watch other work and still our money we could use locally.
Nowhere else but Winchester and Frederick County...Our overpaid Local Gov..


Date: December 8, 2009 2:28 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

A Quiz For Constitutionally Confused Tin Foil Hats: Legal or Illegal? Citizen rights or Society rights?

Shooting your gun at a deer.
Shooting your gun at a house.

Driving your car fast on a race track.
Driving your car fast on a public highway.

Yelling "Fire" while standing in the south 40 with your cows.
Yelling "Fire" while sitting in a crowded theatre with your neighbors.

Smoking while eating at your kitchen table with your kids.
Smoking while eating at a restaurant table with other citizens.

Wearing a ball cap backwards.
Wearing a hat made from tin foil.
: - )


Date: December 8, 2009 11:46 PM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: billbo
Comment:

If the poor undereducated people of this nation would quit believing in 'death panels' and such other garbage,we could have national healthcare and wouldn't need free clinics!!!


Date: December 9, 2009 9:13 AM
Story headline: Firm: Some reassessments will drop
Comment posted by: Rob
Comment:

So how does this help the people in the county? I live in a townhouse community. My assesment went up about 30k to 168k but an almost identicle house just a few doors down can't sell at 119k. Thank you Shenandoah County.


Date: December 9, 2009 10:23 AM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

We have free clinics so we don't need national health care (which is an oxymoron anyway.) Perhaps we could all follow Billbo back to Middle Earth and have Lord Aragorn mix us nice steaming cup of athelas leaves! Only in wonderful stories does government ever truly help those in need. In the real world it is up to individuals and giving people to help those who need it, like St. Judes hospital, and others who give top quality care to those who can't afford it through donations. Instead of wanting horrible government care donate to places who really make a difference...like free clinics!


Date: December 9, 2009 11:25 AM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

Last time I checked the constitution didn't address speed limits, smoking, or ball caps. Stay off the kool-aid jacques, your slipping off the deep end.


Date: December 9, 2009 11:55 AM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: billbo
Comment:

Mrs. Bishop I've read your posts before. You are one of these blind followers who believe anything the talking heads say. I feel sorry for you. Hatred is not acctractive. Turn that frown upside down Sunshine.


Date: December 9, 2009 12:52 PM
Story headline: Winchester approves manager's hiring
Comment posted by: concerned resident
Comment:

Well, this means we are screwed if the City Council wanted him earlier.
They made the discision theirselves as usual.
This must be the man they could get to go the way they wanted..
That is why the other quit and they are dumb enough to pay him the rest of his term after he
broke the contract.
What does that tell you about our Local Gov.?


Date: December 9, 2009 1:13 PM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

I think you're the blind follower Billbo, believing anything the government says. I listen to many different avenues for news and make up my own mind. I'm not hateful at all, if you knew anyone who knew me they would tell you I very rarely wear a frown. Disagreeing with people does not make one hateful. :) Merry Christmas!


Date: December 9, 2009 7:27 PM
Story headline: Smoking ban now in effect
Comment posted by: Jacques Strappe
Comment:

Precisely, Mrs. B2866, the Bill of Rights amendment to the Constitution does not grant you any personal rights to speed, smoke, or wear funny hats. If Virginia (and dozens of other states) restricts where you can smoke tobacco to prevent you from causing harm, it makes it absurd for you to argue your constitutional rights have been compromised. Congratulations, you almost answered your own question.

So, what is your remedy when somebody deliberately and knowingly does something that harms you?


Date: December 10, 2009 9:37 AM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

We don't need healthcare reform?? A free clinic will take care of it all? You are kidding right?? Even with the move to a larger facility, the free clinic will not be able to handle all the needs and wants of the citizens who go there. They have limited services and trying to get doctors and practioners on board to help with the case load is difficult to say the least!!

You will still need prescriptions filled, hospital stays paid for, rehab for various phyical afflictions and on and on. Free clinics do not handle that! What if someone who frequents the free clinic goes out of town or state and a health issue arises...are they supposed to get back to their own free clinic to get treated?? You know, free clinics do require proof of income, so what are we supposed to do...carry this info with us at all times just in case we need to visit a free clinic not in our area? Wouldn't an insurance card be so much easier and reasonable?

Insurance companies need to be reigned in from their unfair practices. Where I work, our insurance will go up almost 20% come Jan 2010. It does that every year. For family insurance, the cost will be roughly $1400 per family!!! Of course, the employees pay only a portion of this, but our portion will go up in Jan 2010 as well. How do I know this...I work in the A/P A/R dept and it is my job to know!

I am not saying that I agree 100% with the bill now before the Senate. It needs some tweaking. Fed money for abortions? No way! I am pro choice, but if you make the choice you pay the price. Simple enough. I also do not like the idea of taxing our insurance benefits nor a tax penalty for those that choose not to have insurance, but the majority aside from that is definitely what we need.

I would also like to see health insurance become more like car insurance where it follows you from state to state...in essence...it goes where you go. Also, if I have an accident and my insurance goes up, well, that is to be expected. As it is now, if one or more of my co-workers has a high claim for the year then ALL employees insurance rates go up next year!! Is that fair for those who have not used their insurance that year or at all?

Anyone who thinks that all we need to do is pepper our localities with more free clinics and that will take care of all our healthcare needs is absolutely undeniably naive or grossly misinformed.


Date: December 10, 2009 10:02 AM
Story headline: Just hanging out
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

He's pretty cute. Though I like a friend's description of squirrels: all spring-steel and teeth covered by fur (his cat had made the mistake of catching one).


Date: December 10, 2009 10:10 AM
Story headline: New Market players will have stories told in book
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Hmm, looks like I'm going to have to sweet-talk the wife out of $15 in a couple of weeks. I can't get to their games, but I listen online as I do with the Cardinals games.


Date: December 10, 2009 10:50 AM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: b2866
Comment:

Nice post Tstar. The part that is so discouraging is the overall cost of health care. Imagine if companies weren't paying out so much for the benefit. Salaries may actually improve. The only part that scares me if "government ran" part. They can't run most of the programs now effeciently. My favorite quote so far was about eliminating the 8 billion in waste from Medicare to help pay for it. Why not eliminate the waste anyway, and why wait? I just hope they get it right and it works.
There are other things we can do to reign in costs too. I took may daughter to an accute care clinic for an allergic reaction while we were in Missouri last year. Total cost 48.00. How on earth can it cost me 98.00 to go to a regular doctor visit here?


Date: December 10, 2009 12:08 PM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

Thank you B2866. I was just reading an article that one of the ideas the Senate is tossing around is the possibility of reducing the age for Medicare participants for people 55 -64 yrs old. That's not a bad idea, but it did remind me of something else I would like to see changed in the healthcare bill, but I have not seen this issue addressed as of yet.

There seems to be a growing number of doctors that refuse patients who are on Medicaid and now Medicare due to low reimbursements to the doctors as well as the length of time it takes to get reimbursed. Will healthcare reform include some solution to this growing problem? Whether we have a public option or not or something similar of a different name, if we the patients have it, but doctors refuse patients with it, what have we actually gained?


Date: December 10, 2009 12:37 PM
Story headline: Friday's vigil will bring attention to global warming
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Uugghhh! There is no man made global warming! It has been shown to be a fraud! When will this paper report on the fabrications put forward by the UN climate authorities. Facts about cooling have been supressed. The earth has warmed and cooled many times in its history. To think man has something to do with it is all hollywood smoke and mirrors. I'd like to see the HARD evidence of global warming, not the made up numbers Al Gore uses. There are none. The scientific method has been totally ignored in the study of climate change. Polar Bear populations have risen, Arctic ice has thickened temperatures have gone down. Cycles are natural. Instead of taxing the nation back into the stone age perhaps we should simply continue to work on conserving our land and using the fuels God gave us...all of them including natural gas, wind, solar, coal, etc. We can create cleaner energies while still using what we have. Cap and trade will, to quote Mr. Obama, "make energy costs necessarily sky rocket." America cannot afford these ridiculous energy taxes. Perhaps the elites at the top can quit flying around in their private jets, driving their SUV's, cut back on their energy use and actually live according to the rules they want to mandate on everyone else...or is it not really as big a problem as they say. Al Gore is set to make a fortune in "green technologies"...hmmm, I wonder if that's really what all this is about -- MONEY! Wake up people and do some research...on both sides of the issue not just the pro-warming side, you might just be surprised.


Date: December 10, 2009 12:58 PM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Wow, Tstar, I agree with you. Hold insurance companies accountable, make coverage portable, and open up competition across state lines as well as tort reform. A government run program will only hurt competition. I do believe free clinics and hospital helping the poor are a good thing. Only when we as a society decide to help each other instead of relying on the government will anything ever get better. Please send your ideas to Senator Webb and Warner. Letting them know what you really want is the best way to fix the system. Your ideas are pretty much what all us "tin foil hat wearing" folks have been pushing for...reform not government take over. Merry Christmas!


Date: December 10, 2009 3:44 PM
Story headline: *Appraisal: Salahis' wristwatch was fake Patek Philippe Geneve
Comment posted by: Bean
Comment:

I don't care what you say, these people make me laugh ! I can only image what Salahi was thinking when the judge ordered him to hand over the watch, LOL They are grifters extrordinaire. !


Date: December 10, 2009 4:04 PM
Story headline: Friday's vigil will bring attention to global warming
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Global Warming=junk science=fraud


Date: December 10, 2009 4:15 PM
Story headline: *Appraisal: Salahis' wristwatch was fake Patek Philippe Geneve
Comment posted by: Bean
Comment:

these people are Grifters Extrordinaire ! Can you imagine what was going thru Salahi's mind when the Judge asked him for the watch? Makes me laugh, sorry.


Date: December 10, 2009 4:56 PM
Story headline: *Appraisal: Salahis' wristwatch was fake Patek Philippe Geneve
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

Like that rabbit with the drum, this thing just keeps going and going and...


Date: December 10, 2009 5:12 PM
Story headline: *Appraisal: Salahis' wristwatch was fake Patek Philippe Geneve
Comment posted by: Newsie
Comment:

Surprise, surprise! Is there ANYTHING that ISN'T FAKE with these two? How they can even step outside their door and show their faces is beyond me!


Date: December 10, 2009 9:19 PM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: Tstar
Comment:

Merry Christmas to you as well. I did want to clarify something from my previous post. I do believe that a public option of sorts is necessary in order to reign in the insurance companies and the stranglehold that they have over ones health and care at such an exorbitant cost. I didn't want to mislead you into thinking I didn't support that type of program. A public insurance plan that doesn't have profit margins, no big marketing budgets at a price a lot more of us could afford? Sounds good to me or at least a step in the right direction! I don't see it as a government takeover of healthcare.

I get very upset when issues of my health are governed by my insurance company and not by my doctors. Why do we allow such a company to dictate what care we receive, when we receive it and how and all this without benefit of a medical degree? All to cut their cost and maximize their profits. Doesn't sound like much "care" to me.

I am not saying that I agree 100% with what the government is considering as a means of a public option nor do I have any idea how this will be funded, but it would certainly give the current major insurance companies something they have never had before...stiff competition and a reason to maybe re-evaluate their current practices. As it stands now, they do what they want, charge what they want with yearly increases that are outrageous and who is to stop them? To me, a government that would stand by and allow this to continue is a worse government than one that is at least trying to do something about it.

My companies' insurance providers don't think twice about raising our rates by 15 - 20% yearly. If family coverage is at $1400 per month now effective Jan 1 2010, at that rate next year it will go up to as high as $1680 or more depending on claims filed. If due to the economy, my company has to drop insurance coverage for employees to stay afloat, it won't be due to healthcare reform, it will be at the hands of the insurance company and their exorbitant cost!


Date: December 10, 2009 9:41 PM
Story headline: *Appraisal: Salahis' wristwatch was fake Patek Philippe Geneve
Comment posted by: caveman5974
Comment:

The one thing that is not fake about this pathetic couple is that they are genuine frauds.


Date: December 11, 2009 6:54 AM
Story headline: Friday's vigil will bring attention to global warming
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

Sounds like everyone needs to hop in their Diesel Pickups and make a few loops around Court Square around 6PM

"Vigils are also being held in Harrisonburg, Charlottesville, Williamsburg and other communities." and "All of the events are being coordinated by 350.org, an international climate change awareness group."

That says it all, right there. I suppose these big city liberals cant make news in their respective cities so they bring their smoke and mirrors somewhere smaller where it will be "news"

Sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here.


Date: December 11, 2009 8:47 AM
Story headline: Rowland changes direction on grading policy
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Do not lower the educational standards. As a former educator, I understand that this only amounts to a free ride. Do your work or fail. Just like the real world. High school students aren't too big to fail.


Date: December 11, 2009 10:57 AM
Story headline: Salahis' financial troubles only starting
Comment posted by: caveman5974
Comment:

Lifestyles of the not-so-rich and wanna be famous.


Date: December 11, 2009 11:01 AM
Story headline: *Appraisal: Salahis' wristwatch was fake Patek Philippe Geneve
Comment posted by: bshpilot
Comment:

whata POSER ! Fake watch, Fake PEOPLE !

The judge should have arrested him and held him in contempt of court for knowingly providing collateral that had NO REAL value & could not settle the debt !

how pathetic - in court and cant even write a check to settle his dept !

Hey Tareq word is you can buy mowers at walmart & sears...keep your eye out for a sale !


Date: December 11, 2009 2:23 PM
Story headline: New Market players will have stories told in book
Comment posted by: Al Smith
Comment:

I have read Gisriel's works in the past and he has a true gift. I am looking forward to reading this one very much.


Date: December 11, 2009 2:29 PM
Story headline: Salahis' financial troubles only starting
Comment posted by: Scoopgirl
Comment:

How is it that these two continue to get away with the crap they pull? If anyone else would do this at the White House, they would be in jail.

They owe the State of Virginia taxes, they have written a bad check in Maryland for close to $ 20,000, they have judgements galore, yet they still walk around and act like they are all high and mighty.

It made me sick to see the Facebook site that Michaela has set up which is nothing but a brag fest on herself. Time for her to be knocked down a notch and serve some time in jail for all the people she has coned out of money.


Date: December 11, 2009 2:44 PM
Story headline: Salahis' financial troubles only starting
Comment posted by: Ryank
Comment:

From the outside, it appears to be high quality, expensive, and beautiful. But on the inside, it is a shoddy piece of garbage that could only deceive the shallowest of fools. Am I describing a fake watch, a mediocre "winery", or a failed socialite?


Date: December 12, 2009 8:14 AM
Story headline: Charges dropped in street sign case
Comment posted by: JD
Comment:

Interesting. but there was no mention as to why the charges were dropped. If there wasn't enough evidence to convict for the actual laceny, certainly there was enough to convict of posession of stolen property.


Date: December 13, 2009 7:42 AM
Story headline: Fourteen guns seized in raid
Comment posted by: Gauntlet
Comment:

Shenandoah County Sheriff's Office has done a good job on this investigation.
Sounds like this group was taking anything from anyone, with at least some form of planning/conspiracy.


Date: December 14, 2009 8:49 AM
Story headline: Strasburg gets world-wide Web hits
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

This is news?


Date: December 14, 2009 8:51 AM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: A simple message this year
Comment posted by: Walt
Comment:

It's becoming something of a cliche' among believers of late, but Jesus IS the reason for the season. Wouldn't it be great if the mangers outnumbered the reindeer some day?

Thinking about the perennial "we got to simplify this year!" a truly hilarious take on this rite of Christmas appears in Edward Streeter's book, "Merry Christmas Mr. Baxter."


Date: December 14, 2009 12:06 PM
Story headline: Strasburg gets world-wide Web hits
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

I like the new web site, except for the fact that you can only get minutes of very recent council meetings. It was nice to peruse the old meetings for information on the old site. I do however think it's highly unlikely that ANYONE would want to cause trouble on the site. The day Strasburg Va gets "attacked" will make the attacker look pretty silly...we can barely balance our budget! ;)


Date: December 14, 2009 12:56 PM
Story headline: Free clinic raising funds to renovate new building
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

It's nice to have a respectful debate with you Tstar! :) If I believed the government was capable of producing a fair insurance option I wouldn't be opposed to it, but if you think about it, what is the difference between the government getting between you and your doctor and the insurance companies? I really think if the government paid doctors and hospitals what they were worth instead of the small percentage they do our rates would not go up every year, however our taxes would be so high we couldn't afford to buy anything for ourselves. It won't get better with a government option because even if you love the democrats in power now and believe Obama is only out for the good of the nation someday there will be another George Bush in charge and republicans, which should scare every democrat or moderate out there to think about. A government option can only exist if taxes go up and with the price you pay for insurance I can assume you make enough to pay your fair share of taxes already.

Congress is charged with policing interstate commerce and if they would simply open up medical insurance across state lines it would alleviate a lot of the problems with price...not all but a lot. And tort reform would make a huge difference. Those two things could be accomplished right now in the congress to give immediate relief, but Obama and the Democrats won't even consider those options. Whether or not people actually want the government in control of their medical care or not, why does it have to pass now? If they want to draft a good (if that's possible) plan, why not put forward the options I mentioned and continue to work on a public plan? If truly helping people is their objective why are they willing to try and pass the nightmare before them now instead of working to get it right?

I've only read parts of the various bills and they won't lower your costs, they'll raise them. Right now all children are covered by the schip program (I think I got the acronym wrong), poor people are covered by medicaid and old people are covered by medicare. If helping the poor is the objective I'd say it's met...except for the fact that all of those programs don't work well (medicare is almost bankrupt and medicaid is under used and schip covers children up to the age of 25.) Do we really want more?


Date: December 14, 2009 1:41 PM
Story headline: *Father and daughter die in collision with school bus
Comment posted by: Amy
Comment:

Susie
I am so sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you and your family.


Date: December 14, 2009 2:09 PM
Story headline: *Father and daughter die in collision with school bus
Comment posted by: billbo
Comment:

Why were schools not on a hour delay? Warren and Fauquier Counties were. With a hour delay that bus wouldn't have been there.


Date: December 14, 2009 9:26 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: A simple message this year
Comment posted by: Nita
Comment:

Christianity comes from more than a sign in the yard, which is a nice visual reminder. Christianity is a way of living all year - not just when you are in the limelight. To be able to let your light shine when no one is watching is a sign of true Christianity. To be able to truly love and treat others the way you would want them to treat you. Not failing to come together in worship and praise. The world if full of hypocrites which gives Christianity a bad name - so always live what you profess to be, or not profess it at all.
Jesus is the reason for the season but Jesus should be the reason for all year - not just for the season.


Date: December 15, 2009 9:12 AM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: A simple message this year
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

Amen to Nita and Walt! Merry CHRISTmas!


Date: December 15, 2009 9:12 AM
Story headline: Council discusses Queen St. alternative
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

The town council needs to fight this all the way. Don't let VDOT ruin our town.


Date: December 15, 2009 9:26 AM
Story headline: Board chairman: Potential cost savings 'unbelievable'
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Is Ameresco, Inc. a local company? Where there no local companies that could have done this audit? Are the construction jobs to do these "green renovations" going to local contractors? Probably not just like the hiring of a search firm to hire the new county administrator. The county government is out of control much like the federal government. Spending money taxpayers no longer have. Maybe wasteful spending like this needs to be protested like the real estate property taxes.


Date: December 15, 2009 9:29 AM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Will he have to pay for his stay in the hospital or will the taxpayers because he was arrested?


Date: December 15, 2009 9:31 AM
Story headline: Supervisors hire firm to help select administrator
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

This is ridiculous.


Date: December 15, 2009 9:47 AM
Story headline: Board chairman: Potential cost savings 'unbelievable'
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

Ive seen it before, You hire a consulting firm or do a "study" so the BoS wont have to take all the blame when whatever project blows up in their faces. My question is if we have saved all this money by "going green" and are slated to save even more, then why, oh why, Mr. Ferguson are our property taxes going up?

Oh, I forgot, we have to pay for tons of projects that no one wants.


Date: December 15, 2009 9:49 AM
Story headline: Supervisors hire firm to help select administrator
Comment posted by: Rusty
Comment:

As I have stated in a previous post, it allows the almighty BoS to pass the blame when the recommended replacement turns out to be some Northern Virginia hot-shot that wants to turn our wonderful rural county into a sprawl infested nightmare.


Date: December 15, 2009 12:17 PM
Story headline: Father and daughter, 11, die in crash
Comment posted by: dj
Comment:

A prayer for the Brill Family- Those weighed down by grief at the loss of a child may find reassurance in the Lords infinite goodness.


Date: December 15, 2009 1:03 PM
Story headline: *Father and daughter die in collision with school bus
Comment posted by: Patriot
Comment:

So very sorry for the family of the victims. Why would anyone blame the school system for not delaying? The buses didn't have any problems on the roads. I drove to work from Stephens City to Reston at 4:30am, I knew there was a potential for ice, so I SLOWED DOWN. If the school bus had not been there, maybe a garbage truck would have. This accident happened because Mr. Brill, rest his soul, lost control of his car. The school system has nothing to do with it.


Date: December 15, 2009 6:14 PM
Story headline: Father and daughter, 11, die in crash
Comment posted by: JD
Comment:

God Bless the Family and friends for thier losses and worsened during a holiday season. I cannot imagine the unbareable grief of anyone having to bare. Heaven sent Prayers.


Date: December 15, 2009 7:10 PM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: jessica
Comment:

I saw the whole thing Cogswell was intoxicated but the officer used overly excesive force for someone who was 3 times over the legal limit. My heart goes out to him and his family.


Date: December 15, 2009 7:13 PM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: jessica
Comment:

Cogswell should not have to pay for anything. He didnt do nothing wrong. He was walking to his car to leave. He had a DD


Date: December 15, 2009 9:38 PM
Story headline: Father and daughter, 11, die in crash
Comment posted by: mda8389
Comment:

I will be praying for this family, because they just lost 2 of the many best members of this great family. This is a real tragidy to have on your hearts here at Christmas . But wit prayer your family and us friends can make it through this trying times. Ricky was a real great friend and he had 2 wonderful children he was there for everyone who needed a hand and he was teaching his girls to be just like him . May GOD be with us all and guide and protect us with his love, blessings, and healings. AMEN.


Date: December 15, 2009 10:14 PM
Story headline: Chris Fordney: A simple message this year
Comment posted by: Tina
Comment:

Christianity is a way of life. Not just when it suits one to call themselves a Christian. It is the hypocrites of this world that need to be in church every Sunday and then walking the walk, not just talking the talk when it suits them, or doing something once a year to make themselves feel better and look good, while treating the people around them so differently year round, when no one is there to see, and behind closed doors. I was taught growing up that Christianity is a way of life, and to remember to treat others as you would have them treat you. Year round. In public. or behind closed doors. Remember the children, because they grow up learning from us. In what they are taught, what they hear, and especially what they see...


Date: December 16, 2009 8:58 AM
Story headline: Group asks town to waive or reduce fees
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

While I know the Habitat organization is trying to help, Strasburg cannot afford to throw away $40,000 in water/ sewer fees. There was no break for the Homestead housing project which will be having affordable housing as well. The council or Habitat needs to find someone/s to donate the fees or not do the project. Plus, not being hateful (although I know I'll get branded as such) how are any poor families who would benefit from the Habitat project going to be able to pay the water and sewer fees monthly? There are already citizens here that are struggling and the fees will continue to go up and up and up as Mr. LeVine has always honestly stated since becoming head of the finance committee.


Date: December 16, 2009 10:59 AM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: Buddie
Comment:

Any incident envolving an suspect requiring medical attention should be investigated by independent citizens selected as a quartely jury pool, as a circut court jury is seated. To many times our officers that are suppose to serve and protect are becoming a score of state paid gangs themselves. The review panels exsisting now are just people they pick, that mainly reley on what the officers themselves put in reports.(one-sided). 2 wrongs does not make a right, but somehow a person convicted of no crime (except by the officers) reguired a ride in an ambulance for injury resulting from arrest, be held in the hospital im sure for more than just what he had in his system but more from the combination including injury. Sounds like an assult by a gang took place as there are no assult charges to the officers themself and as stringent as the laws are protecting our officers if you so much as touch them in the performance of thier duties is grounds for assult. But yet an assult has taken place?


Date: December 16, 2009 11:12 AM
Story headline: Ex-Va. governor: Even with alterations, bill is bad news
Comment posted by: Tess Stickels
Comment:

Heritage Foundation? Shills for republican agendas, not neutral advocates; they will say what you pay them to say.

Poor Mr. George "Daddy's Coattails" Allen. First, he is discredited for being a bigot. And now, sitting in big businesses' hip pocket, he continues to enjoy the taste of shoe leather by stubbornly demonstrating he doesn't understand all he knows about health care reform. Oh, wait. He's republican. That explains it.

Never mind. Somebody, please tell Mr. George "Yesterdays Wonk News" Allen to go sit down, we'll call him when he's needed.

Ear plugs ready? Que the Tin Foil Hats....


Date: December 16, 2009 12:07 PM
Story headline: Ex-Va. governor: Even with alterations, bill is bad news
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

TIN FOIL HATS...TIN FOIL HATS...TIN FOIL HATS...Mmm...Mmm...Mmmm Tess has never learned to play nice with others, so Mr. Allen would probably say, "sticks and stones..." As always Tess and her other personalities call names but never give substance and NEVER answer questions, so the "Queen of the tin foil hats" says:
TIN FOIL HATS...TIN FOIL HATS...TIN FOIL HATS...Mmm...Mmm...Mmm!

Merry Christmas!!!!!!!


Date: December 16, 2009 3:02 PM
Story headline: Ex-Va. governor: Even with alterations, bill is bad news
Comment posted by: RBV
Comment:

This is a classic, "anti-everything", "no, no, no" response from the right.

Tell us, George, what are your ideas for fixing the problem, or do you think the system we have is OK? And, please.... tell me that someone from the 4th estate asked him what his ideas were on fixing the system.

Where else in the world can you pay insurance premiums for 10, 20, or 30 years only to get dropped (legally) when you need the coverage?

The system is broken, folks.

I don't really care if it's a Democrat or Republican that comes up with a fix....but if you don't have a better alternative, and all your going to do is criticize the current plan, then please stop wasting our time.


Date: December 16, 2009 6:24 PM
Story headline: State reprimands area rehab official
Comment posted by: wan8ive
Comment:

Thank goodness neglect issues were finally looked into. Glad it hit the media. Shame, shame, shame.


Date: December 16, 2009 8:39 PM
Story headline: Ex-Va. governor: Even with alterations, bill is bad news
Comment posted by: penny
Comment:

Riddle me this...... If this socialization of healthcare is such a good thing for Americans, then why is it Obama and Congress said they would not use it?

They already offer medicaid as gov't sponsored healthcare. They should just expand that program and allow more than just pregnant women, children, & the elderly to get it.


Date: December 17, 2009 8:40 AM
Story headline: Increased rates for water are predicted
Comment posted by: Rob
Comment:

What else is new??? The town knew of the new requirements for the sewer treatment many years ago but did absolutley nothing about it until it was too late. If the bills were raised only a couple of dollars when all of this started there woud be no or very little increase in the rates. At one of the worst financial times in this country's history, the town has just reported that it is in good financial shape yet they are going to put it to the residents again. Thank you Woodstock!


Date: December 17, 2009 8:54 AM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: jessica
Comment:

You are right about that. The strasburg police are corrupt. And something needs to be done about this. When marshall robinson was chief it was not like this.


Date: December 17, 2009 10:55 AM
Story headline: Recycling seen as key to landfill's future
Comment posted by: Fire Eater
Comment:

Since when does the county engage in revenue making activities such as selling electricity to power companies?

Carbon credits? You mean the county participates in junk science at the expense of the taxpayers? Is there a law in VA requiring participation in such a scam?

The county will need a new landfill soon? The place is huge. What about Mt. Trashmore in VA Beach? Can't our landfill be built up and turned into a park like that?

Residents won't understand the benefits of an incinerator? Thanks for the condescension.

I've got an idea, sell the landfill operation to a private company that can run it more efficiently.


Date: December 17, 2009 11:10 AM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: kim bishop
Comment:

I wonder how Jessica and Buddie would have responded if it was their job to keep the peace. I was not there, but from the article it sounds like Cogswell, was not in his right mind both intoxicated with alcohol and other substances. If he was fighting with the rescue squad people in such a way as they needed to pull over for help after being subdued I can only wonder what he was like when the police had to restrain him. I thank the police for doing their job and support them. The Strasburg police department is not corrupt, just police officers doing their job and when dealing with people drunk and on drugs sometimes things get rough. Maybe we should be holding Cogswell responsible for getting himself into such a state...maybe he's the one to blame.


Date: December 17, 2009 11:40 AM
Story headline: Man arrested after cops go to theater
Comment posted by: Kim
Comment:

So I love how they "thought" they had the correct time when it was wrong. Good job fixing it but the officers still messed up. We have worthless, ignorant cops that are in Strasburg. The force that was used was so unneccessary that the boy was in ICU for what not minor cuts and abraisons! These people need to get their story right and the officer who submitted these story was not even on the scene...GO FIGURE...These cops around here need to get a real job and go to the city and work instead of worrying about petty things and pulling people over for a headlight or taillight out! I hope these cops get what is coming to them because they were WRONG FOR WHAT THEY DID!!


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