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Letter to the Editor: Romney TV ad full of lies


Editor:

Everyday TV ads bombard us with lies from the Mitt Romney campaign.

There is the well-documented lie about President Barack Obama cutting medicare by $716 billion, when in fact it is projected savings.

There is the well-documented lie about Obama discontinuing the work requirement for folks on welfare, when in fact he was giving Republican governors the flexibility they requested.

There is the constant lie about Social Security going bankrupt, and therefore we need to privatize it, when in fact what is really happening is the Republicans want to get their hands on all that money in order to pad their bank accounts.

Then recently Paul Ryan resurrects the well-documented death panel lie that Sarah Palin used so often. This last one just amazes me. It seems to come about because the new health care law establishes something called The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). This supposedly is the "death panel" so feared. But note the major adjective in the title - advisory. That's right, its job is to advise, i. e., to recommend medicare cost savings.

I understand that many seniors are uncertain about the new law and any changes with Medicare, but to lie about what this panel is and to hype that uncertainty is unconscionable. That is what Ryan is doing, and I can prove it. Just read page 409 of the new law and you will find that the IPAB " shall not include any recommendation to ration health care."

You have to wonder what the Republican candidates have to offer if all they can do is lie about what Obama has done.

Michael Cash, Fort Valley


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Appreciate your opinion, but both sides are full of lies, exaggerations and misconceptions. Both parties are just as guilty in this arena. The best thing a person can do is assume that every political commercial is a big lie and research your candidates and any other issue up for vote. Can't wait for the elections to pass so that I don't have to hear the political commercials!

"I will cut the deficit by half" is the biggest lie of all.

This paper has a list of lies told at the convention, including Ryan's medicare lie and even Ryan blaming Obama for a plant that closed under Bush...

http://hosted2.ap.org/vastr/d873855751ab4fdfa9f5721740709407/Article_2012-08-30-GOP%20Convention-Fact%20Check/id-5e6fe5f058d84bba972d329dc48910c5

1- I wonder if Romney will continue his dishonesty tonight, most likely
2- Its one thing to a commercial telling lies, especially since some are Super PAC paid for, but quite another to stand there and look at people and keep repeating what you know are lies. With the Romney campaign even admitting it doesn't matter if they are lying because people believe it. Says alot for a mans character when he admits he is basically looking you in the eye and lying and will continue to do so because you are too lazy and "willfully ignorant" to care.

Let's see if he follows in Ryans footsteps. Fox News had this to say about his speech last night. ‎ “To anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech.”

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/30/772921/6-worst-lies-in-paul-ryans-speech/

Here is the link to the Fox News story on Ryans deceiving speech - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/

I may need heart medicine due to the shock of seeing any amount of truth on Fox, I hope Sally doesn't get fired.

Too bad pants-on-fire-liar Dan Flathers can't find his backside even when using both hands. Could this be due to the Boston Irish Catholic heritage of alcohol fogged impairment of judgment or could it be Romney's governorship of Massachusetts where RomneyCare was created? Did Flathers support RomneyCare when he lived in the Boston area? Sure he did. RomneyCare was a GOP idea and Flathers drank heartily from the flask of GOP Kool-Aid. Flathers posturing is akin to evangelical missionaries leaving their hometowns and spreading lies about their faith. Paul Ryan did exactly that in his speech last night:

RYAN: Said Obama misled people in Ryan's hometown of Janesville, Wis., by making them think a General Motors plant there threatened with closure could be saved. "A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you ... this plant will be here for another hundred years.' That's what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year."

THE FACTS: The plant halted production in December 2008, weeks before Obama took office and well before he enacted a more robust auto industry bailout that rescued GM and Chrysler and allowed the majority of their plants — though not the Janesville facility — to stay in operation. Ryan himself voted for an auto bailout under President George W. Bush that was designed to help GM, but he was a vocal critic of the one pushed through by Obama that has been widely credited with revitalizing both GM and Chrysler.

Romney, Ryan, and Flathers never let facts get in the way of telling a good lie.

I hope Sally doesn't get fired, too, Katybug. Here is what the rest of Fox News had to say about the Ryan speech . . . http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/08/30/fox-disregarded-numerous-falsehoods-to-lavish-p/189661

If I make a promise to someone but sincere as I might be, because the circumstances were not what we all thought they were in the beginning and I therefore can not keep it, would reasonable and fair people call that a "lie"? Flathers and the rest of the right-wing loves to say President Obama's quote said in Feb. 2009 right after his inaugeration, "I will cut the deficit by half" is a "lie" (???). Of course they will never point out that in 2009 estimates of just how bad the economy had contracted greatly underestimated it----in 2009 economists were putting it at 3% when it turns out it was far worse at close to 9%. And President Obama certainly had no help from the obstructionist Republican congress in getting anything accomplished that could have helped the economy.

Now contrast what Flathers calls "the biggest lie of all" to all the out and out lies from the Romney/Ryan/Republican side that Michael Cash has pointed out in his excellent letter to the editor. Not only do the non-partisan fact-checking sites confirm that these Romney compaign lies are lies, but Michael Cash has even given the page number of the Affordable Care Act law (Obamacare) that proves the Republican lie about "death panels" to be just what it is----a scare tactic out-and-out lie.

There is the thing called "stretching of the truth" that all campaigns have always engaged in, but then there are the out-and-out lies that we have seen from the Romney campaign. What kind of administration would Romney/Ryan have, if they are elected, when they have based their entire campaign on lies?

'song98 asks "What kind of administration would Romney/Ryan have, if they are elected..."?
I suggest the Romney/Ryan administration would be continuation of the Bush/Cheney administration whose lies about Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and imaginary mushroom clouds rising above American cities were total fabrications concocted to cause fear and justify two unfunded wars, resulting in thousands of young American men loosing their lives because Republicans are liars and whose torch carriers today, Romney and Ryan, are poised to continue the liar legacy of the GOP.

May Bush and Cheney rot in the hell they so justly deserve for the loss of life they caused. And now America is faced with Romney telling lies while Ryan swears by them. Flat-earth twits like Flathers and Tea Time, zombie like, keep muttering the same lies over and over as gospel truth.

Isn't it time Americans demanded the truth be told instead of standing still while Republicans fabricate their own set of twisted distortions accompanied by outright lies?

This demand will be enforced at the ballot box.

The issue is the worthiness of the president standing for reelection.

I can understand how most of you would like to avoid it.

I'll be curious to see how quickly you make excuses for the next president starting in January.

Oh.....killer bees, what a bunch of blather. To read all the crap you try to shove down our throats is a laugh. You mean to tell me that Obama does not make any mistakes. It's no wonder this know-nothing Marxist got as far as he has. With a few more saps like you I suppose socialism is just around the corner.

Why is it that a pathological lying scoundrel like Paul Ryan is always the archetype Republicans like to hold up as their Golden Boy? Something is profoundly rotten at the core of that party.

The Flathers strategy is to reframe the discussion away from uncomfortable truths, truths that scuttle his posturing on the suitability of his candidate, Mitt Romney.

Romney, like Bush, is sometimes described as a 'decider'. I can agree with that description because Romney decided not to reveal more than 2 years of his income tax returns that may shed light on his tax haven bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, Switzerland, and other countries famous for helping the wealthy avoid taxes in their native countries. Romney says we must trust him? Of course, Reagan famously said, 'trust, but verify'.

Who invented RomneyCare? Was it Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney?

Who promoted General Motors should file bankruptcy, shutting its doors, laying off hundreds of thousands of employees. Who saved GM and the employees?

Dare I ask who eliminated the Bin Laden threat?

What can be said about Bain Capital creating jobs in America versus exporting them to foreign countries?

What can be said about Romney's greed, earning his millions off the backs of the poor and middle class workers whose jobs were abolished when their employers companies were liquidated instead of being resurrected to profitability by Bain Capital?

What can be said about Romney flip-flopping his positions on dozens of issues simply to pander to the audience he happens to find himself standing before at the moment?

The issue of President Obama earning another term in office is being discussed on these NVD forums daily. Based on the content of the reader comments posted to date, in my opinion the Romney supporters have offered little to nothing in support of the multitude of lies tumbling off the Romney/Ryan lips.

Romney throws red meat to the GOP faithful we know as angry old white guys and Romney blows the Tea Party dog whistle to serenade the evangelical fundamentalists, but he has nothing for Independents, women, and the black and brown minorities who will ultimately decide this Presidential election.

Romney's campaign rests heavily on his promise to reduce taxes. Romney has said that he can do so without reducing revenue and increasing the federal debt. Asked to show his math, Romney says he can work his magic by "broadening the base", meaning he would increase the amount of income that is subject to tax by getting rid of loopholes. This sounds great in principle; it’s a matter of “getting rid of a lot of the undrbrush" in the tax code. But the really big loopholes aren’t oil-depletion allowances and the like; they’re tax deductions that millions of Americans have come to view as entitlements, such as for mortgage interest and charitable giving.

The Tax Policy Center (TPC), a nonpartisan joint venture of the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, recently analyzed Romney's tax plan and found that there would be no way to implement them without raising taxes on the middle class. Perhaps raising taxes on the middle class will off-set lowering taxes for the ultra-wealthy?

Nowhere does Romney explain how he can balance the budget by reducing spending and cutting taxes.

The last straw was Romney snubbing the Ron Paul faction of his own Party, blowing any chance he might have salvaged the label of being able to unite the various factions of his political party into a cohesive group. The Ron Paul libertarians are mad as hell and will not take Romney's b.s. anymore.

2,500 years ago Cicero is reputed to have said 'when your argument lacks substance, abuse your adversary'. Does this remind you of anyone, teatime? Here, hold on to this mirror.

Clint Eastwood sure made a fool out of himself at the Republican Convention last evening. Bet they didn't count on this old "macho man" letting them down. I would say he, "made their night".

It didn't really matter because Romney's acceptance speech was without substance and rang hollow as ever.

Seems like this campaign has gone on forever: I'm ready to watch the debates. I am sick of all the outrageous lies from this desperate party.

Michael Cash I looked at the Thinkprogress link and this is a quote from that link “Ryan’s favorite lie is a deliberate distortion of Obamacare’s savings from eliminating inefficiencies.”
First – let me point out that Thinkprogress.org is a left leaning organization funded by, among others, George Soros.
Second – the above quote from their web site is a lie itself.
“The financial projections shown for the Medicare program in this report reflect substantial, but very uncertain, cost savings deriving from provisions of the Affordable Care Act. It is important to note, however, that the improved results for HI and SMI Park B depend in part on the long-range feasibility of the various cost-saving measures in the Affordable Care Act – in particular, the lower increases in Medicare payment rates to most categories of health care providers. Without fundamental change in the current delivery system, these adjustments would probably not be viable indefinitely.”
The cost savings in particular are the lower payment rates to health care providers. Those cost savings will in fact never materialize because congress will have to do a “doc fix” or
“Medicare prices would be considerably below the current relative level of Medicaid prices, which have already led to access problems for Medicaid enrollees, and far below the levels paid by private health insurance. Well before that point, Congress would have to intervene to prevent the withdrawal of providers from the Medicare market and the severe problems with beneficiary access to care that would result.”
2012 Medicare Trustees Report – April 23, 2012
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/ReportsTrustFunds/Downloads/TR2012.pdf

Michael Cash – enjoyed the link to the Fox News Opinion Piece. Please note this is an Opinion Piece – not fact. It was written by Sally Kohn, and here is a quote from her website “Fox News asked me to write the liberal response to Paul Ryan’s GOP convention speech last night. So I did.

Michael Cash – since you choose to use Media Matters as your source, I will counter with the following http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/30/fact-checking-the-factcheckers-on-ryans-speech/
I also love how the fact checkers keep citing the Medicare actuary report with this quote “Medicare Actuary, April 23, 2012: [Obama's] Affordable Care Act makes important changes to the Medicare program and substantially improves its financial outlook …”
They really took this sentence out of context. What it really says is “Further, while the Affordable Care Act makes important changes to the Medicare program and substantially improves its financial outlook, there is a strong likelihood that certain of these changes will not be viable in the long range.”
Wow – leaving out the rest of the sentence makes this a little misleading don’t you think?

Why is it every conservative I run into likes to use George Soros's name as some kind of proof that whatever point is being made is somehow now proven wrong just be the presence of his money? For you, I'mdebtfree, since you are most concerned with the medicare lies, here is a most thorough analysis of the problems facing medicare and the claims of both parties . . . http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/

There you should find enough to keep you occupied for a while, though I must confess. I did not call Mr. Soros to ask if he had given any money to factcheck.org.

Oh, and just to save you some time my letter said that the Romney campaign ad about the $716 million dollars was a lie. Here is a quote from factcheck.org regarding that campaign ad.

"The claim in this campaign ad is not true. The new law doesn’t take a dime out of the hospital insurance trust fund, which is already being drained because current benefits exceed current payroll taxes. Romney is actually referring mainly to future reductions in the growth of payments to hospitals, not to taxes paid by workers in the past."
http://factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/

And with regard to you quotes form the medicare trustees report, they have been making the same kind of reports since the beginning of Medicare. You will note that in your quote the trustees say that ". . . Congress will have to intervene . . ." Well, quess what? Congress has intervened year after year after year after, . . . well you get the point.

Yes Mr. Cash I do get the point. Medicare constantly needs congress to intervene to try and fix it. The changes in Obamacare only buy a few more years and more changes will need to be made. By their own admission the current projected savings in Medicare will probably not even happen. So all the cost saving figures touted by the CBO are out the window. If they leave the payment cuts in Obamacare, there will be a problem with access to care. Medicare has to be changed and we will have to contribute more. If that means when I retire I will have to spend more on my health care, that’s what I will have to do and I better start planning for it now. I would rather have the choice of paying more for care then not having the care available. There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

I'm ready for the debates as well. As far as Eastwood, I think he did a darn fine job of showing them what arses they are. It was either intentional or his mind is starting to go. I'm sticking with intentional awaiting further evidence.

And here is another check on Ryan's lies at the convention . . . http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/

I do like Romney's business experience, but his Gordon Gecko-esque tenure at Bain Capital concerns me. I also have a problem with him calling himself pro-life. In fact, Romneycare provided for taxpayer funded abortifacients (Pharmaceuticals that cause spontaneous abortion) How many evangelicals and catholics know this? He also is continually calling himself a christian to gain votes, when most of us learned in Sunday school that this is not the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGFAph3lWqw



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