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Letter to the Editor: Change is not always good


It is dispiriting that liberals want to ignore our heritage. One reader criticized adding 'under God' to our Pledge of Allegiance. The pledge is an expression of loyalty. Including "under God" should not prevent expressing that loyalty.

The left also calls for programs to help illegal immigrants. One of the bad side effects is that illegals use a hidden cash economy that results in massive amounts of our currency being sent to, and spent in, other countries. Many immigrants don't come here to better themselves and become a part of our society. Conservatives want to help those who deserve it, but we demand they obey our laws. America was once called a melting pot because all who came here assimilated into our society, thereby enriching our culture. Today, because of liberal policies, the melting pot is gone. There is no incentive for immigrants to assimilate. English as second language and other liberal programs have seen to that. We don't all speak the same language; we don't understand the others' problems/concerns; we are divided.

As the left pursues its programs of hope and change, I repeat Romney: "Hope is not a strategy." Further, change is not always good. Look at what's happening in Spain, France, and England. Look closer at home by reading "The Collapse of Detroit" by Dr. Clark Jensen.

Provide well for your progeny, including a very safe place to live. Support the Second Amendment, they may need it. The America liberals are creating will be a socialist land 20 to 50 years from today. The liberals are unaware of, or don't care about, what made America great. To our detriment, they are raising another generation like themselves. School systems and colleges are destroying what conservative parents taught. If children aren't taught their heritage, as adults they won't fight for it. All the patriots who shed blood creating and defending our country will have done so uselessly.

We can try to reverse the damage, but only by strictly following our Constitution, honoring our heritage, and teaching it to our children.

Fred Hughes, Woodstock


The illegal immigration problem started many years ago and has continued through many changes in the White House and Congress. It is essentially one of the building blocks of the Dominionist Empire Musical Chairs Party platform, without being explicitly stated.

Great Britain had an empire. Part of the rules of their game included inward migration from the colonies. At least they formalized it and called it "legal". The result has been destruction of the social fabric.

The truth about illegal immigration is here:


Ilegal is a strange concept. Was it illegal or legal for your ancestors Mr. Horne and Mr. Hughes to come to this country form another country and kill the American Indians and take away their land? Was it legal or illegal for us the USA to make a treaty with the Indians to give them land (which was already theirs) and then turn around and take that land away from them again when when uranium, gold, oil, etc. was found on it? Was it legal or illegal to force Indian children into schools that would not let them speak their native language and destroyed their native heritage in the name of Christianity and patriotism? Seems to me the real illegal aliens in this country are all the folks who are not Indian.

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Mr. Cash,

In concept I agree with you 100 percent. My ancestors came to Jamestown some 400 years ago, so it is likely that my genes include some from Native Americans.

However, at that time there was no coded law on immigration, at least not one ratified by Native Americans.

But, that was then. This is now.

John Horne

Of who's code do you speak, Mr. Horne? Certainly you do not think that the European "code" was better than the Indian "code." Or perhaps you think the Indians had no "laws." I can only shake my head in disbelief . . .

Conquest. It has been around forever.
Yeah, our government gave the Native Americans a more than raw deal. Governments (leaders, whatever their titles) have done the same to their own people since recorded time and no doubt before.
Still, laws have been established intended to prevent illegal entry into the United States. It doesn't work very well, but when landlords and employers turn their backs on citizens, illegal immigrants win.
What is illegal? Violating the law.
There is a culture of pity and acceptance for peoples from throughout the world who come in search of the American dream. Our tax dollars provide healthcare, education and much, much more for illegal immigrants.
There is no comparison between the early English settlers and the illegal immigants of today.
Laws have been established to protect citizens willing to abide by them and punishment for those who don't.

Mr. Cash, you are correct. That does not offer a solution to our current problem.

@ bigbird > Another cut-and-paste post that is irrelevant to the topic.

vp; you are the gift that keeps on giving. I applaud your heroic efforts to maintain, distort, and disseminate willful ignorance of facts.

Irrelevant to the topic? Is the topic immigration? Has Romney taken a position on immigration? Please enjoy the taste of shoe leather.

From Big Birds link I gleaned the following Romney lies on the topic of immigration. Please consult the website for the supporting reference links - NVD allows only two per post and there are a dozen or more in the original postings.

170. The Romney campaign argued this week that Kris Kobach, Romney's controversial adviser on immigration policy, is a "supporter," not an "adviser."

In reality, Kobach is still very much an advisor to Romney and his team.

171. The Romney campaign also said yesterday that the former governor never said Arizona's anti-immigrant law is a "model" for the nation.

Romney absolutely said Arizona's anti-immigrant law is a "model" for the nation.

180. The Romney campaign argued this week that the candidate hasn't endorsed "self-deportation" as an immigration policy.

Romney, earlier this year, explicitly endorsed "self-deportation."

329. In his "Face the Nation" interview, Romney said of Obama's new immigration policy, "If he really wanted to make a solution that dealt with these kids or with the illegal immigration in America, then this is something he would have taken up in his first three and a half years, not in his last few months."

That's remarkably misleading. Obama has pushed for the DREAM Act for years, and would have signed it into law in 2010 had it not been blocked by a Republican filibuster.

343. Romney went on to argue, "Unfortunately, despite his promises, President Obama has failed to address immigration reform."

Actually, Obama has addressed it quite a bit, taking executive action where the law allows, and pushing Congress to pursue comprehensive reform based on a bipartisan plan he presented last year.

344. Following the Supreme Court's ruling on Arizona's anti-immigrant law, Romney said, "we are still waiting" for President Obama "to present an immigration plan."

No, actually, we're not. Obama endorsed a comprehensive reform plan years ago, and presented his own detailed plan more than a year ago.

345. At a campaign event in Salem, Virginia, Romney said Obama had "all the support he needed" in Congress to pass immigration legislation during his first two years in office.

That's plainly false. There were Democratic majorities in both chambers, but not enough to overcome Republican filibusters.

346. At the same event, Romney said Obama "did not deal with immigration" policy.

Sure he did. Obama introduced a comprehensive immigration reform proposal; he increased deportations; he strengthened border security; and he used his prosecutorial discretion to implement the goals of the DREAM Act. Romney may not approve of these policies, but he should deny their existence.

672. On immigration policy, Romney said, "Despite his party having majorities in both houses of Congress, the president never even offered up a bill."

First, the president has endorsed all kinds of immigration bills. Second, having majorities in both chambers doesn't change the fact that Senate Republican filibusters blocked immigration policymaking.

838. On immigration, Romney argued, "I did not say that the Arizona law was a model for the nation."

There's some nuance here, but he really did call the Arizona law "a model" for the nation.


Mr. Hughes, I am a liberal; I love my country and my church. But I guess you're right, I don't understand what you mean by our "heritage". What is it that the liberals have done to take away your freedoms and your voice? What did I leave out of my children's education? What do you think makes America great? You've painted me with a very large brush when you said that I didn't care. I do care. Because I care, please enlighten me on the specifics of the heritage that you refer to.

My point Coach is that we came here illegally and now we want to keep out spoils to ourselves. You made the point for me. Thank you. Conquering sounds so antiseptic doesn't it. Kinda makes it acceptable somehow that we only did what everyone else did. Makes it more politically acceptable, don't ya think? Nothing morally wrong with that now, is there?

As for comparing the early English settlers with today's immigrants. Seems to me they both came for the same reason . . . economic opportunity!

I brought up our treatment of the Indians because I think our sense of history is sorely lacking. We are illegal immigrants! Conquerors or not!

I am aware of the present issue/problems, and I think largely the illegal immigrant noise is coded racism. We don't seem to have a problem with Canadians, Europeans or folks from India coming over and taking American jobs. Certainly, the current immigrant issue has been politicized to death by both parties, and there needs to be a bipartisan solution worked out. Let's see who blinks first.

Mr. Hughes, you stated that ". . . illegals use a hidden cash economy that results in massive amounts of our currency being sent to, and spent in, other countries." The last time I looked, undocumented workers paid over $11 billion in taxes in this country in 2010. That is about $11 billion more than GE paid from what I read. Want to kick GE out of the country, too? If anything is to blame for sending money out of this country to be spent in other countries it is Bush's tax cuts and unfunded wars and unfunded government programs. All of that money had to be borrowed. Resulting in us sending tens of billions of dollars every year in interest to China so that they can build up the People's Army. Now that is something you might want to be upset about!

scubasteve, I'm not going to convince you regardless of how many examples and statistics I present. Perhaps you don't understand because maybe we don't come from the same situation. I believe our country's "health" has degraded significantly since the 50s/60s in terms of world approval, finances, self reliance, integrity, a national sense of patriotism, adherence to the Constitution, cohesion and, perhaps most important, attitudes.

I attribute that to more and more parents, because of other demands on their time, relying on their school systems and colleges to educate their children. Studies show that teachers, especially college, are overwhelmingly liberal. I can't find references, but I don't remember bias in my own experience in the 60s/70s. The article below states that 72 percent of professors teaching at American universities and 87 percent at "elite" universities are self-described liberals. The author goes on to demonize conservatives and justify why it is right and proper that there is bias against them on campus. He concludes: "Conservatives by nature are orthodox and liberals by nature are doubters. Thus the only liberal "agenda" is to expose to all clear-thinking people of good will that most orthodoxies are at best only partly true, and to protect us all from those who would impose their orthodoxies on all of us. I propose that that is why roughly 80 percent of college professors choose to be liberal rather than conservative. The bias part is just a natural follow up, one that I choose to describe as a pragmatic weapon to be used in the war against ignorance."

The tragedy is that he's serious. He and most liberals believe that the things that made our country great are evil. "Conservatives...fight fiercely to support their misguided opinions... and each is sheer dogma."

This article goes beyond bias and approaches hate. He may not represent the typical 87%, but I don't want this guy or anyone like him influencing my kids or grandkids. But they have been in the minds of our past and present, thus we are where we are and many are unaware of our heritage because most of our teachers either don't respect it or don't think it's important. And they are currently in the minds of our future.


Dear Valley Patriot,
When you pass into the great beyond, I pray your mortician gives you an enema. Upon its completion you could then be buried in a matchbox.

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Another reasoned, dignified response that illustrates my point perfectly.

I thought about these letters and articles while standing in the crowd that just finished saying the pledge of allegiance, with under God followed by a prayer (myself included) before they introduced our President in Fairfax this past Friday. Its all side argument. We can go back and forth over those that need the government to make their belief "real" by law, and those that do not.

The biggest issue we face as a country right now is our economy. Where we have been and where we are going. 12 years ago we had a candidate promising a better economic future. The policies he proposed then as well as 4 years later we, almost at times have word for word what Willard Romney is running on today, and that President knocked America on her arse. You would think that people would remember, but we are spoiled with instant gratification, selfishness and greed.

There is a very real difference in a man that brings the policies that ushered in the Great Recession and the man who not only had to clean up, but put America on the road to recovery. You can keep moving forward held high with the steady belief that we are Americans, therefore we can, no matter how hard the fight or you can fall for the same line of hot elephant crap that doomed us in the first place.


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