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Letter to the Editor: Last thing we need is another war


Yes, foreign policy is in fact dangerous, especially when you are war mongering.

In Dan Flathers' foreign policy letter of Oct. 15, the most valid thing written was, "How many more wars must we witness (or engage in) before the lesson finally takes hold?"

Flathers needs to spend some more time pondering that very question. He skips from blaming the U.S. for the rise of Hitler to blaming the U.S. for Cambodian deaths to complaining about President Obama using other options rather than sending our citizens to their death elsewhere. Perhaps Flathers should spend more time reflecting the repercussions of George W. Bush's (still thought by many as illegal) war on Iraq - not only the costs which the U.S. could ill afford, but the subsequent rise of Iran and atrocities in Syria. We went to war after being lied to about weapons of mass destruction and terrorism support, and here are the Republicans again beating the same tired old drum.

With the current U.S. economy, the last thing we need is another war. Who will rise in Iran's place that we must then play world police against? What of China and Russia while the U.S. keeps digging its bankruptcy hole deeper? Would they take advantage of our weakness if we continue the Republican path? We already have a candidate hoping to be draft-dodger in chief already offending other countries. What does he care, he wouldn't have to fight and we already know he will just hide elsewhere when our country calls.

I've seen Flathers often in the nvdaily.com online comments area. It is hypocrisy to advocate warring the world when oneself is closer to the end of life and not only wouldn't have to fight, but most likely won't be around to suffer the consequences. Much like a retired government employee, receiving union pension, aligning with the party that wants to end the benefits they lived off of, and possibly continue to live on.

Some Americans, Flathers, have indeed learned that our country cannot continue sticking our nose elsewhere and not suffer the consequences for doing so.

Christina Thomas, Front Royal


These warmongers are indeed dangerous. We would have been a much more respected country if George W. Bush, had never been elected. He and Cheney will go down in history for being liars who have almost destroyed our country and they should have been impeached.

And now we are left with a big mess, handed to Obama on day one to instantly fix.

We need an intelligent, cool head when it comes to foreign affairs not another big-mouth, arm-chair warrior. Romney reminds me too much of Bush - well one of his many faces, that is.

Thanks for an important letter, Ms. Thomas.

Great letter Christina. I don't know how Flathers can support Myth Romney when he is one of the 47 %. :)

I literally said almost the exact same thing in regards to Russia and China in a post yesterday, now lost to the NVD blog owner bin.

Willard as repeatedly said now that one of his many day one promises is to begin a trade war with China, as well as his announcement that in his mind Russia is our largest foe, only when pressed on that answer by Wolf Blitzer did he rephrase to Iran.
During the final debate Willard may have been hiding under his Obama costume, be we know what he has been stumping the last two years. They want "boots on the ground" in Syria, Iran, more to Afghanistan, some back to Iraq, probably Libya now considering they wanted to do that before President Obama actually did anything, what other middle eastern countries do they want us to teach to play little America?

Where are we going to get the money to do this? The troops? Reinstate the draft? Will we go back to the days of military families on food stamps and families here having to buy and send gear because our own government will not provide decent protection as under GWB? What impact will it have on the barely recovering economy from the last Republican in office. All Willard offers is questions. Every proposal he offers top economists shoot down as nonviable, mathematically impossible.

Ms.Thomas' letter and Diane's and Ronbo's comments have defined Obama as a warmonger for attacking Libya last year.

I agree with Obama's action. Sadly, he did not show the same "resolve" and "leadership" during the attack on the Benghazi embassy. If he had, maybe four lives would have been saved and an embarrassment avoided.



* add katybug to the list of commenters who consider Obama to be a warmonger.

Twisting my words only works on Teabillies VP. Republicans called for action in Libya and then found every fault they could when President Obama actually did so without committing the US to full on war. Typical behavior.

Also very typical distract and introduce a new argument without addressing anything of you btw, which I also pointed out in the "lost" post.

Better review my posts Valley Patriot. I said he was one of the 47 %. I know there is no honesty of comments in yours or Myth's worlds.

Nothing more completely baffles one who is full of trick and duplicity, than straightforward and simple integrity in another.
Charles Caleb Colton

valley patriot, are you talking about me? It's Diana not Diane. Two different people commenting on here, unfortunately a very common name. I didn't choose it.

I'm speaking about the George W. Bush administration as warmongers. Had Obama pulled the troops out right away, everyone (who doesn't have to actually fight these wars) would have gone nuts! I feel sorry for the pawns in all of this, namely the men/women who are actually there taking the fire.

There are many who make a lot of money on WAR. You know that, don't you? I'm not sure our government could stand not being engaged. It's a sad state of affairs and it's understandable that this country isn't trusted either.

Hey Valley Patriot, You said you were going to research those 'flip-flop' accusations, how's that going buddy?

TMZ has learned Mitt Romney's son Tagg -- who had twins this year through a surrogate -- signed an agreement that gave the surrogate, as well as Tagg and his wife, the right to abort the fetuses in non-life threatening situations ... and Mitt Romney covered some of the expenses connected with the arrangement ... and it may boil down to an incredibly stupid mistake.

The twin boys -- David Mitt and William Ryder -- were born on May 4, 2012. We've learned Tagg and his wife Jen, along with the surrogate and her husband, signed a Gestational Carrier Agreement dated July 28, 2011. Paragraph 13 of the agreement reads as follows:

"If in the opinion of the treating physician or her independent obstetrician there is potential physical harm to the surrogate, the decision to abort or not abort is to be made by the surrogate."

(Source: TMZ)

@ katybug, ronbo, jane8, & diana > Reading your squeals and caterwauling keeps me coming back.
@ jane8 > I don't want to presume what you insinuated with the post about Tagg. But don't clarify. I don't really care; it is irrelevant to anything. You know..just like what Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, etc. did is irrelevant.

But you made an interpretation of the agreement that may not be valid. You said "...signed an agreement that gave the surrogate, as well as Tagg and his wife, the right to abort the fetuses in non-life threatening situations..."

Then you quote: "If in the opinion of the treating physician or her independent obstetrician there is potential physical harm to the surrogate, the decision to abort or not abort is to be made by the surrogate."

You, or TMZ, jumped to the conclusion that "potential physical harm" includes non-life threatening situations. Unless there is a definition of "harm" in the agreement, we don't know that.

(btw - thanks for finally using a reliable reference.)
@ jane8 > re research: I haven't forgotten but thanks for the reminder. To speed things up, re-post some of those references that list them.

Bantering with you guys is a diversion, not a full day of recreation, so any time you save me will be appreciated.

VP- I believe you may have multiple personality disorder.

It is so true, Katybug. Sometimes vp sounds as if you could actually sit down and have a informative, productive conversation with him...then he turns an about face and posts garbage such as above. Waste of time.

Jane8, Katybug, Diana, et al,

There are only two things to dislike about 'valley patriot'; his face.

@ the pack > Thanks for the additional chuckles. Try to keep up.

That was exactly my thought. One day rational, the next day off the rocker, semi-rational the next....LOL kinda like the many faces of Willard ;)

@ jane8 re October 26, 2012 10:29 AM post: Found some time to research the Romney flip-flop issue. Used this reference: http://samuel-warde.com/2012/06/list-of-mitt-romney-flip-flops/. I don't doubt any of the examples.

Then I used this reference to research Obama's flip-flops: http://www.therightsphere.com/2012/04/president-flip-flop-barack-obamas-broken-promises-policy-reversals-and-continuous-flip-flops/. I don't doubt any of these examples, either.

We could waste our time debating the veracity of each reference or we could agree that each side tries to present the opponent in the worst light. This reference (which I will give in a following post to avoid blog filter) attempts to show that flip-flopping, regardless of who does it, can be a good thing. To be continued...

@ jane8 re October 26, 2012 10:29 AM post: continued

This reference attempts to show that flip-flopping, regardless of who does it, can be a positive. http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkotter/2012/10/04/obama-romney-and-mastery-of-the-flip-flop/ I'm not claiming that's what's going on in either camp.

This reference claims that the media uses different verbs when discussing the candidates' position changes. http://www.cjr.org/swing_states_project/obama_evolves_romney_flip-flop.php?page=all

October 26, 2012 -- 36 New Lies This Week

The Mendacity of Mitt Romney

889 searchable lies listed chronologically with comments and reference source weblinks




October 27, 2012 11:33 AM

You quote trash sites and expect to be taken seriously?

What I cited was out of his VERY mouth. Utube. Undeniably true. Disappointed that you show yourself lacking seriousness over one of the most important elections in US history.

Can you explain this to me, if his stint as CEO SLC Olympics was so successful, why did he have the records sealed for 15 years? Does that make sense to you? Is that the norm or is Romney the first one to do it?

Not really to do with this particular letter, but UniteWomen just put this out and I'm sharing it because every female voter should see it.


BTW VP- It even covers the flip-flop/evolve issue.

jane, you disappoint. My reference contains quotes from Himself and evals of them from the FactChecker and PolitiFact. You label it trash but applaud bigbird's. Typical liberal double standard. As to your question: no I can't explain, but it doesn't deserve explanation. It's more fog...obscure examples you have dug up to justify your choice. If I had any respect for obamanation, it vanished when he began stonewalling and continued talk show appearances after someone in his administration turned their back on our embassy.

katy > interesting but not fresh opinion from a lady who is involved in an organization in disarray. This does not make her opinions invalid, btw.

Bye Bye to UniteWomen.org

I noted she says she is speaking for herself, but the video says "Published on Oct 27, 2012 by UniteWomen."

I'll say again, we can trade references and opinions 24/7 and it won't change anything. You guys are who you are and I and other conservatives are who we are. You guys think Romney will do irreparable harm to the country. We think Obama is doing irreparable harm.

See you at the polls.

I spent 11 and a half years overseas as a Foreign Service Officer. Obama/Clinton turned their back on no one. It IS Republican hipe and that is all. Sad that this unGodly incident is used as political fodder. And even sadder that dumb Americans buy into it.

The utubes I posted weren't written quotes. they were straight out of the Romney's mouth!

So what's your point!

*hype, Hype, HYPE!!!!!

vp, Please refresh my memory..."You label it trash but applaud bigbird's"...where in these posts did I comment on BB's post..

"someone in his administration turned their back on our embassy." Do you ever use any common sense, vp?
Okay, I will try to put the Benghazi attack in terms that may help you to understand events and time frames.

(I realize this is very simplistic, but...) When there is an accident on I-81, the highway is more often than not, shut down for hours and hours with horrible backups. And you expected Obama to save our four brave men in an attack that materialized out of nowhere. The Benghazi tragedy lasted less than seven (7) hours. What exactly do you truly believe that anyone could have done in such a fast paced, spontaneous attack to save these men?

The Mendacity of Mitt Romney, caught telling 923 lies since January 2012

Here is the latest list of searchable lies listed chronologically with comments and reference source weblink.

November 2, 2012 -- 33 New Mitt Romney Lies This Week

See #890 thru #923 for this weeks list of lies


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