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Letter to the Editor: Romney lies a lot


I am a senor who went to work when I was 15. I worked until I retired. Now I am on Social Security and Medicare. I am one of the 47 percent that Mitt Romney wants nothing to do with. He classes me as a free-loader, along with the people who work hard every day but do not make enough to pay federal taxes. But we pay payroll taxes, and lots of other taxes - the people who are in the armed forces who are serving our country, disabled veterans, and the list goes on. I think President Obama cares about me, and I will gladly vote for him in November.

When the Daily was sold, I wished for a newspaper that did not take sides, that is honest, that is not too far to the left or too far to the right. The Daily is no longer that newspaper.

I will give you just one example. On Tuesday, after the Monday, Oct. 22 debate, in the Daily article, "Romney, Obama face off in final debate," almost every word was to make Romney look good. I watched the debate; Obama clearly won the debate. I watched after the debate, and it was all over the news that Obama won. The Daily did not print that Obama caught Romney in a right-out lie, which was proven after the debate that it was a lie. Romney lies a lot. Is that the man you want for president?

June Cullers, Front Royal


Yes, Romney lies! He changes with the wind and will say anything that might work for the immediate crowd. I keep wondering what's wrong with the American people?

Anyone who finds nothing unusual about a person who has a different position every time you see him, obviously isn't paying attention. Romney took almost every line from Obama and barely rephrased it as his own.

Watching that last debate was amazing! How can anyone consider Myth Romney for the White House? Romney understands nothing about the average person living in this country - that's you and me.

How much do you know about Obama? His grandfather, mother and father were communists the latter fought for communism in Africa. Read "Dreams from My Father". He lived and grew up 8yrs old to 17yrs old with a card carrying Communist (Frank Marshall Davis) which he considers one of his mentors. His religion is not clarified, but he has said he believes no one can be saved unless everyone is saved as a collective (Collective Salvation). He believes that he is the one to achieve that. How about the people in the White House. His advisors. Cass Sunstien for instance, helped him with the Healthcare Law. That’s not a plan saying everyone gets health care. Its a law that says you must have health care or you will be taxed for it. That tax will be tripled by 2015. It contains in mild wording that the elderly and disabled will not get the same medical treatment (procedures) as now. Cass Sunstien has said the less you have to contribute to the community the less care you need. Look up Complete lives system. Van Jones was in the White House for almost 3 yrs before he started to receive negative attention for his openness of being a self-proclaimed communist and speeches of wanting to over through the government system.
Who was in control of Congress the last two years of Bush's term? Obama has outsourced more jobs than he has created here in the US. Some of the stimulus money (QE2) went to GM and they built more plants in China and so on. Hundreds of millions of dollars was given to Brazil for oil drilling. He has stopped most oil drilling here on Government land. His policy for coal mining will nearly stop all mining. Coal is are main source of electricity. That’s jobs lost not created. Obama “Under my plan energy costs will sky rocket" That means gas, which has doubled since Bush, heating oil which has increased, and electricity, which has gone up. Obama is no more than a Community Organizer that has tripled our debt in 3 1/2 years compared to Bush's 8. Think of this, Our country accumulated $10 trillion debt in 200 years. Obama has accumulated $6 trillion in 4 years. He is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood for Pete’s sake. Obama spoke off prompter that if you were successful you didn’t do it on your own. I think he meant without the Governments help. He will raise taxes for all incomes (fare share) and income that is $250,000.00 and over will be over 45%. Who are those people? People who have their own business, that create jobs. Will they, can they create more jobs if they have to pay more and higher taxes. Obamas tax plan for 2013 will raise taxes on all incomes by at least 10%.
Did you know more U.S soldiers have been killed during Obamas 4yrs than Bush’s 8 year term? Obama has supplied weapons to untrained rebels in Africa and the Middle East. Some of those rebels have direct links to Al-Qaida and Hezbollah. Obama and his administration watched 4 Americans on 9-11-2012 fighting for their lives for 7 hours in Benghazi and refused to send help. They ask for more security weeks before the Terrorist Attack. The Administration tried to cover their wrong doings by blaming a “You Tube Video”. Terrorist that claimed responsibility said they knew nothing of the video.
Our Founding Fathers fought for freedom and created our Constitution. Its time we demand less government and Find another George Washington. I’m voting by Content of Character not color of skin. The main stream media has not been truthful of what is really going on in this Administration. I have done my responsibility of reading, and investigating. I believe if Obama is elected again we will be a no boarder Un-United Socialist States of America.

WHAT? Do you think Mr Obama is telling you the truth? He is the country's Liar-in-Chief. Look at what he SAYS versus what we DOES. He talks a good line but that's all. Just talk, talk, talk, lie, lie, lie. After the debates, fact checking showed that both Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden lied about many things-- too many to list here. Do your homework. June, sorry to tell you, but Mr. Obama does not care about you, he cares about himself and his own idealogy. What has he really done for this county? Where are his results? He promised unity and transparency and delivered nothing. The best example of his transparency is the current Benghazi scandal. We have yet to learn the truth and won't until after the election is over. Four people died and property destroyed and the American people cannot get any plausible explanation from the Obama administration, but we do know that the White House knew what was happening and gave NO orders to assist. Mr. Obama did not assist his ambassador and three other government employees in a life-or-death fire fight and you think he cares about your welfare? Think again, June. Mr. Romney is a good Christian man who has a proven record of helping others and balancing budgets. He is the best choice as the next leader of the great United States of America.

A Harvard Medical School analysis determined that nearly 45,000 people died in the United States each year largely because they did not have insurance. Romney said, Americans don't die because of being uninsured.

Romney lies constantly and NOW even embraces Obama's policies (because he has non of his own).

"Death to Tyranny"? Really? Who do you have in mind? That's the typical "over the top" stuff that has become the theme of this Republican Party. Easy to spout off when you hide behind your words. Got any white sheets you not using these days??????????

Let's hear about all those lies that are fact checked. Give us your information; first the lies and then the proof.

Mitt Romney is a "good" Mormon (they say). Well he's a big follower of his own church. I know little of his personal life, but I do know he has a record of taking over companies and firing everyone. He's well known for shipping jobs abroad and he doesn't mention how he will create all the jobs.

While there are no PERFECT people running for political office, I will take my chances with what I know. All Americans need to put pressure on these elected officials regardless because I believe most of us know "big money" and corporations are running the show. We need to know who contributes to what and why.

So, you like a rising $16 trillion national debt, high unemployment, and weak foreign policy? In a second Obama term, Katie bar the door because he is doing to do anything he wants to get his leftist idealogy in place. What he cannot do through Congress, he will do through his leftist czars and regulation. What you are hearing about Mitt Romney comes from the liberals who want to smear him and make him look like an ogre. He is a smart, good, honest, humble Christian man who has done much good for many people, served well, and will get this country back on track. Four more years of Obama will take us closer to Socialism. If that's what you want, go ahead and vote for him. As for me, I want traditional American values, freedom, and liberty.

Diana, here is a small example (from NPR):

Dina Temple-Raston said Obama was incorrect; making sure that those we help in Syria will be friends is not a feasible goal.

Tom Gjelten said Romney was correct; Iran is four years closer to having nuclear capability.

Gjelten said Romney was incorrect; his statements about Iran’s sanctions didn’t quite square with what he’s said in the past.

Frank Langfitt said Obama was incorrect; Romney’s opinion article did say they would provide federal guarantees for financing after the companies go through bankruptcy.

Danielle Pletka said Obama was incorrect; he has not been that interested in reversing sequestration in the past.

Vali Nasr said Romney was incorrect; his proposal to indict President Ahmadinejad would not be effective or helpful diplomatically.

Oh, my gosh! Are you serious? Romney lies. Really?
Newsflash!! All politicians lie. I said ALL.
I've written Virginia state representatives, the last three US Senators from Virginia, our Congressman and yes, even Mr. Obama. (All he wanted was a donation to his re-election campaign and that was two years ago). None of them provided a direct answer to the issues I addressed. In several cases the answers were so far removed from the concern I had expressed it was bizarre. I suspect that staffers answer the letters of constituents without the elected representative ever seeing them but when asked in public of representatives dance around a direct answer like a man with his feet on fire.
No doubt, the day is coming when they will be.

Dishonor to Liars (aka Death to Tyranny): "He lived and grew up 8yrs old to 17yrs old with a card carrying Communist (Frank Marshall Davis)"

In October 1967, Obama (age 6 years old,) and his mother moved to Jakarta to rejoin his stepfather who worked on a topographic survey for the Indonesian government. From January 1968 to December 1969, Obama's mother taught English and was an assistant director of the U.S. government-subsidized Indonesia-America Friendship Institute while Obama attended the Indonesian-language Santo Fransiskus Asisi (St. Francis of Assisi) Catholic School around the corner from their house for 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd grade. Obama spent the summer in Hawaii with his maternal grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, In mid-1971, Obama (age 10) moved back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents and attended Punahou School starting in 5th grade, Obama's mother visited Obama in Honolulu from late 1971 to January 1972, which bracketed a month-long visit in December 1971 by Obama's father, Barack Obama, Sr.—the last time the 10-year-old Obama would see his father. Following high school, Obama (age 18) moved to Los Angeles in 1979, where he studied at Occidental College for two years. He worked for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens. Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[48] In the summer of 1988, he traveled for the first time to Europe for three weeks then to Kenya for five weeks where he met many of his paternal relatives for the first time.[49]

Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 (age 27). At the end of his first year he was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition. In February 1990, his second year at Harvard, he was elected president of the law review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[52] Obama's election as the first black president of the law review was widely reported and followed by several long, detailed profiles. While in law school he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989, where he met his wife, Michelle, and where Newton N. Minow was a managing partner. Minow later would introduce Obama to some of Chicago's top business leaders.[46] In the summer of 1990 he worked at Hopkins & Sutter.[54] Also during his law school years, Obama spent eight days in Los Angeles taking a national training course on Alinsky methods of organizing.[46] He graduated with a J.D.magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 and returned to Chicago.

Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).[62]During this time he taught courses in due process and equal protection, voting rights, and racism and law. He published no legal scholarship, and turned down tenured positions, but served eight years in the Illinois Senate during his twelve years at the university.

"Did you know more U.S soldiers have been killed during Obamas 4yrs than Bush’s 8 year term?"

Oh! You fooled me for a while! It took me a second read of your posting to realize you you are! Welcome to this site, Governor Romney.

Smart enough...MY FOOT!!

As a retired FSO with nearly 12 years experienced overseas tours to include civil unrest...before GOD you are not 'smart enough'...you are an idiot! Let me share a story with you that reminds me of some of you people that are commenting on the Benghazi deaths (which you, btw, reduce to a 'scandal'!!! ?)

After a caller (insert your name here) complained to a (insert your town here) radio station about the placement of "deer crossing" signs on busy roads, saying that they should direct the deer to cross in less traveled areas.

Good for you Jane for taking the time to disassemble any of that garbage!
I started reading and my Glenn Beck radar went to red alert and was forced to leave the page before I caught the teabilly virus.
Willard a good "christian", lol, maybe this storm is Hades freezing over too!

On another note if you haven't seen this guy, he is really good at what he does, and usually rather polite about it.


To Death to Tyranny, 4ur411, and Smart Enough: Welcome to the fray. I suggest you look at this to prepare yourselves for the gang/pack. http://www.angelfire.com/emo2/republican/Manual.htm.

You experienced an example of tactic #2 above from jane8. An example of tactics #2 and #5 from diana can be seen here in response to Letter to the Editor: "Don't trust Obama"

"Ms. Silek, I'm too tired to start really respond to this nonsense but look out tomorrow when the gangs all here!
You simply need to pay attention to facts and stop allowing Fox to do your thinking."
Diana | October 27, 2012 1:30 AM | Report Abuse | Reply

If you are looking for occasional entertainment and a few laughs, this is the place. But if you are looking for serious discourse about issues, look elsewhere. The gang/pack seems to be fanatics.

Hello VP, Looking for facts?

These are the reasons why the citizens in the Middle East love Americans....

Seventy percent of children are suffering from trauma-related symptoms according to a study of 10,000 primary school students in the Sha'ab section of north Baghdad, conducted by the Iraqi Society of Psychiatrists and the World Health Organization. "We're now finding an elevation of mental health disorders in children – emotional, conduct, peer, attention deficit", according to Iraqi psychiatrist Hashimi. "A number are even resulting in suicide."


Iraqis Displaced Inside Iraq, by Iraq War, as of May 2007 - 2,255,000

Iraqi Refugees in SYRIA repeat SYRIA & Jordan - 2.1 million to 2.25 million

Iraqi Unemployment Rate - 27 to 60%, where curfew not in effect

Consumer Price Inflation in 2006 - 50%

Iraqi Children Suffering from Chronic Malnutrition - 28% in June 2007 (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007 )

Percent of professionals who have left Iraq since 2003 - 40%

Iraqi Physicians Before 2003 Invasion - 34,000

Iraqi Physicians Who Have Left Iraq Since 2005 Invasion - 12,000

Iraqi Physicians Murdered Since 2003 Invasion - 2,000

Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 1 to 2 hours, per Ryan Crocker, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (Per Los Angeles Times, July 27, 2007 )

Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 10.9 in May 2007

Average Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 5.6 in May 2007

Pre-War Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 16 to 24

Number of Iraqi Homes Connected to Sewer Systems - 37%

Iraqis without access to adequate water supplies - 70% (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007 )

Water Treatment Plants Rehabilitated - 22%

RESULTS OF POLL Taken in Iraq in August 2005 by the British Ministry of Defense (Source: Brookings Institute)

Iraqis "strongly opposed to presence of coalition troops - 82%

Iraqis who believe Coalition forces are responsible for any improvement in security - less than 1%

Iraqis who feel less ecure because of the occupation - 67%

Iraqis who do not have confidence in multi-national forces - 72%

Casualties of the Iraqi War

Iraq Family Health Survey 151,000 violent deaths March 2003 to June 2006


--Ted Koppel, host of ABC's Nightline, devoted his entire show on April 30, 2004, to reading the names of 721 of the 737 U.S. troops who had died thus far. (Republican U.S. Senator John McCain, who denounced the move as "unpatriotic" and "a gross disservice to the public".)

-- "The 500 major amputations — toes and fingers aren't counted — represent 2.2% of the 22,700 U.S. troops wounded in action. But the number rises to 5% in the category of soldiers whose wounds prevent them returning to duty...a senior Department of Defense official disclosed that "1,600 of the kids we've sent out have come back missing at least one full arm. Whole arm. Shoulder disartic..."

-- according to a Pentagon estimate, as many as 360,000 U.S. veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts may have suffered traumatic brain injuries (TBI), including 45,000 to 90,000 veterans with persistent symptoms requiring specialized care. (A separate estimate for the Iraq conflict alone was not specified.)

--"One expert from the Veterans Administration estimates the number of undiagnosed TBIs at over 7,500. Nearly 2,000 brain-injured soldiers have already received some level of care,

--The data, provided by the Army, Navy and Department of Veterans Affairs, show that about five times as many troops sustained brain trauma as the 4,471 officially listed by The Pentagon through September 30. These cases also are not reflected in the Pentagon's official tally of wounded, which stands at 30,327



Now here come Mitt Romney!

Mr. Romney is a good Christian man

Did Romney send you some of his 'temple garments'?

A temple garment (also referred to as garments, or Mormon underwear)[2] is a type of underwear worn by a vast majority of adherents of the Latter Day Saint movement, after they have taken part in the Endowment ceremony. Garments are worn both day and night and are required for any previously endowed adult to enter a temple.[3] The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of the covenants made in temple ceremonies and are seen as either a symbolic or literal source of protection from the evils of the world.[4]
The garment is given as part of the washing and anointing portion of the endowment. Today, the temple garment is worn primarily by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) and by members of some Mormon fundamentalist churches. Adherents consider them to be sacred and not suitable for public display. Anti-Mormon activists have occasionally publicly displayed or defaced temple garments to advance their opposition to the LDS Church.[5]
Temple garments are sometimes derided as "magic underwear" by non-Mormons, but Mormons view this terminology to be misleading and derogatory.[6][7]

Some examples of Valley Patriot's "truths" (sic)

valley patriot posted Obama's "failure to anticipate the Arab Spring uprisings'

VP, you mean like GWBush's failure to anticipate the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon?

valley patriot posted: Obama "gave the Queen of England an iPod loaded with his speeches"

Fact: The iPod was loaded with video footage and photographs of her 2007 United States visit to Richmond, Jamestown and Williamsburg in Virginia. In return, the Queen gave the President a silver framed signed photograph of herself and the Duke of Edinburgh

valley patriot posted: Obama "gave the British PM an inexpensive box of DVDs"

Fact: The gift boxed set of 25 DVDs were of great American movies as picked by the American Film Institute; Gordon Brown is a well-known movie fan. Anti-Obama media even went so far as to say that the American cut DVDs would not work in the UK, but the Prime Ministers owns a multi-system player.

valley patriot posted: Obama "bowed to the Saudi king"

Wouldn't you rather see Obama do a respectful bow, than see media pictures of our President (GWBush) walking around holding hands with the Saudi King or kissing him. Of the three choices Obama, I believe. worked with the less offensive custom.

vp has a lot of room to talk about other posters on this site re truth.

vp " "You dimorats" valley patriot | October 18, 2012 " yet he preaches about showing respect.

I want traditional American values, freedom, and liberty too.

Not a President owned by Sheldon Adelson, a casino magnate with casinos in Macau and Singapore. Adelson accompanies Romney on his trips and, through Romney, he has had a private audience with the Speaker of the House and some other heavy weights of the Republican party.

@ jane8 re October 29, 2012 4:08 PM post: Tactic # 4.

Some call it the W.C. Fields tactic: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t.”

@ jane8 re October 29, 2012 4:08 PM post: Tactic # 4.

Some call it the W.C. Fields tactic: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****.”

Ah, VP, is that what you were doing with your posts of ipods, dvds, etc, Okay.

Personally, I don't think all the carnage imposed on the Iraqis is bull..., bit to each his own.

Typical liberal you are-- can't compete on ideas alone so you must resort to name calling and insults to get your point across. You don't need to call me an idiot--I graduated college and spent many years in the medical profession. I understand about civil unrest b/c the best man at my wedding was a lifetime FSO also. The Obama administration can't seem to get their story straight on Benghazi-- first it was the YouTube video, blah, blah, blah. Six weeks later we still don't know what happened-- just that Stevens and his group asked for more security and during the attack asked for help and got NONE. Four people are dead. The reason I took the user name "Smart Enough" is because I am not a genius (like you apparently) but I AM smart enough to figure things out for myself (unlike you apparently) and I don't fall for all the crud that I see on the liberal media.

*but to each his own.....

"Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney used a loophole to “rent” the Mormon church’s tax exemption status and defer paying taxes for 15 years, according to a new report.

"Tax returns obtained by Bloomberg News through a Freedom of Information Act request indicated that Romney set up a charitable remainder unitrust (CRUT) in June 1996 just before Congress cracked down on the loophole in 1997.

“In this instance, Romney used the tax-exempt status of a charity — the Mormon Church, according to a 2007 filing — to defer taxes for more than 15 years,” Bloomberg’s Jesse Drucker explained. “At the same time he is benefitting, the trust will probably leave the church with less than what current law requires.”


I seem to recall old Harry Reid saying something about Romney avoiding paying taxes for years...was Reid on to something? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SMH

Jane8, so what does your little "disscertation" on Mormon garments prove? Nobody sees the president's underwear anyway and most people (except you apparently) care less.

Okay, SM, I'm willing to post serious data if you are...fair enough?

But when I read idiotic disinformation such as Death to Tyranny posted here, I become really concerned for the future of this country with people like that walking around..thus the magic underwear entry. Actually, I have a close relative that IS a Mormon.

Obama fan, YES, I am...big time. Actually called his local campaign hqs to volunteer to work for him in 2008 after GWB/Cheny's insane eight years. However, prior to Baby Bush, I voted the Republican ticket. Romney, I fear, is even worse than GW. What do you truly know about this man. He has switched ever single position that he has addressed..more than once in some cases. Every unity he has chaired, lead, been involved with either is sealed or has a gag order on it. You have no problem with that? I find that extremely disconcerting!!! Remember The Manchurian Candidate?

BTW, I do NOT listen or read sites such as MediaMatters, MotherJones, etc. any more than I listen to Fox/Limbaugh/Beck, I get all my news from Stewart and Colbert (smile)

I think anyone calling Romney a liar, is at least a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Most of Obama's presidency has been a lie. He has done little that he promised to do. My wife could not survive without Medicare. We know that it must be fixed if it is to survive. Obama stole 716 billion dollars from it to pay for his Obamacare debacle, a debacle that, Obama and other liberals' lies not withstnding, does ration health care to the chronically ill, like my wife. Under it, she would be left to die, a long with millions of elderly and chronically ill. Ms. Cullers, what lie was it that you mentioned that was "proven." Did you notice that a number of things Obama said were shown to be lies. You are not one that "Romney wants nothing to do with." He cares about everyone and will do what he can to help everyone. His jobs plan will result in jobs to put them back to work. That includes saving social security and medicare for our children and grandchildren. He will not take anything away from medicare and social security that we who near or beyond retirement age have paid into. He does not consider you a freeloader. In his comments about the 47% he was trying to say that many in that group, not people like you and my wife, are freeloaders, and are content to take government handouts. If Obama is reelected, the country will continue down the road to ruin that it has traveled down for the last four years.

Now, SM, "I understand about civil unrest b/c the best man at my wedding was a lifetime FSO also."

Ah, now, living vicariously through another's eyes hardly qualifies!

Cracks me up everyone on the Obama side keep bringing up wanting to see Romney's taxes from years ago when Obamas personally selected gaggle of idiots did not have their previous years taxes straight. And one of the many was the main treasury guy???

Listing of 889 Mitt Romney Lies


Now that the Teabillies have established a quorum of "deep thinkers" eager to defend the mendacity of Mitt Romney, I invite them to take a look at this list of 889 Mitt Romeny lies that have been recorded, fact-checked, and proven since January.

Each of these lies, all 889 of them, listed chronologically week by week, have reference source weblinks included to provide the background facts and circumstances that incontrovertibly document the lie.

I challenge the Teabillies to prove Romney did not tell these 889 lies. They can't, and they know it.

Hi Hotel...

--Romney taxes...yes.
--Romney destroyed his info as Gov of MA, even purchasing the computers; what's with that?
--Sealed his "accomplishments" (sic) as the Savior of the Salt Lake City Olympics for fifteen (15) years--what's with that?
--law suit involves a female, he settled with a 'gag' order; what's with that?

Read the first 6 or 7 and could not take anymore. What would big bird say about Romney if Romney accepted as much charity as PBS does? Both Romney and Big Bird have money?

But, but, but, Hotel, sweetie, it's NOT ONLY us nasty liberals regarding Romney's taxes,,,,Do you know who George Will is?


What would big bird say about Romney if Romney accepted as much charity as PBS does?

Oh, come now! PBS charity or Sheldon Adelson 'gifts'??? Don't think you want to go there!!!!!

Long day, lets see

First Tyranny insinuates the President is a communist. Nice breakaway from the usual Muslim-Socialist-Fascist-I don't have a clue but I will spew anyway...Then switches to President Obama supporting the Muslim brotherhood (in between killing them, bad Muslim he is). Typical Beck teabilly fashion linking a bunch of nonsense together to make a conspiracy- which Jane then repudiates with correct information regarding the Presidents childhood.

Second Tyranny passes along the lie that more soldiers died under Obama than Bush. While it is however true that more troops have been lost in Afghanistan under Obama, Tyranny conveniently ignores the other war Bush started. Lie by omission is still a lie my friend.

Third Tyranny brings about the Fox Spews, right wing extreme Benghazi "conspiracy". From cherry picked emails, now proven wrong they continue to push a conspiracy, having not learned their lesson after their attempt to turn F&F into one.

Fourth Tyranny ices the cake throwing in the mix the Glenn Beck push for good ole George Washington understandable since Beck is trying to sell his book along side his end of the world cookware. Reminds me of a local author that likes to push their end times bs book.

Fifth "smart" enough pipes in with yet more of the Spews load of crap, which you know at this point, 9-11 must surely be GWB's fault as well. That's how it is right?

Sixth "smart" pipes in the whole "smart, good, honest, humble Christian man" which is comedic value all on its own. See unlike the Christian sitting President, who the teabillies only admit to his church membership when trying to use it as racism bait, Willard isn't Christian and has never even pretended to be. While Christian websites are busy scrubbing away the "Mormonism is a cult" information, Teabillies are now lying that Willard is a Christian and a Christian is a Muslim. That is a teabillism for the books there bud.

Seventh 4ur411 is absolutely correct. They all lie. The difference between our two candidates is the President's camp isn't running behind him correcting the false info every time he speaks. Major American manufacturers do not have to reassure their employees that the President is only lying to get elected. So many etc can be added here.

Eighth Here comes VP doing his best to change direction off topic as usual

enter here more Spews conspiracy BS

Ninth Bost has to chip in that the President is ruining Medicare, when the CBO has already announced the solvency is extended due to President Obama's policies. Willard wants to privatize the programs and hand them over to his Wall Street buddies. Hello where in the world were you at the end of Bush's deregulation term? Was your head in the sand? You really think Wall Street is better equipped to handle it? Keep munching on that load of elephant dung.

Tenth Hotel can't understand why people want to see a Willard's taxes when every bit of info that does come out doesn't shine so pretty on ole Willard. Come on, his camp publicly admitted he overpaid the last year so he wouldn't look bad in front of the electorate.

In other news today Willard is back peddling again. Having previously stated that FEMA needs handed to the states, or better yet privatized because its immoral for the federal gov to help to people in times of great need. Willard's heart really does lie in stamping a corporate ownership on each American arse he can doesn't it? One can't help but wonder if he will tell survivors of this storm whose home has been destroyed to "go home and call 211" as he did with Isaac.

Once again, the boobtube has struck, and Spews gets another couple marks in the dumbing down of America column.

Ah, Katybug, REPEAT, REPEAT, my 83 year old sister says YOU are one SMART woman!

It's made easy to appear that way when so many darn* lies are told. The new extreme "conspiracy" is really a doozy. Hannity is accusing all non-extreme media of being "in on the cover-up" because they refuse to report the lies teabilly media is reporting. It never ceases to amaze me that people will ignore the information they can view for themselves and just swallow a lie told by someone who makes money off their dumb arses buying into the bs. Further dementia shown when they blame only Clinton for 9-11 when we have declassified records proving beyond all shadow of a doubt Dubya knew about bin Laden and even under Daddy Bush plans for a NY terrorist attack was found during a raid.

If "I" could change one thing about media it would be that to carry the label "news" then however the information is presented, tv/print/web...it has to be labeled either news or opinion, and very strict penalties for those that pass off opinion as news. (Any source, I don't care who is telling the lies or misrepresenting)

There appears to be absolutely no end to Republican lies and obstruction in attempt to steal the election


Jane, why not crucify the Obama cabinet just as you do Romney on taxes? I have a valid point there and you disregard it just to argue for the side you play for. You should be a little more fair and balanced(like Fox!). They are all humans who are far less than perfect but all you can do is try to highlight Romney's shortcomings. Highlight some of Obama's, theres plenty, but you probably can't see them. Still can't figure out how some of you more bright folks can't come to grips with maybe giving someone else a shot when you're guy has not been successful. Good news is this thing is close to done. Before you accuse Hotel of being a tea partier or anything else I was kidding about Fox being f & b.

Ads that mislead or stretch the truth are nothing new for presidential campaigns. But this ad — and Romney's comments last week — has prompted harsh criticism from the media, likely because it strikes reporters as not only disingenuous, but irresponsible. For Romney to suggest that the livelihoods of specific voters — namely workers at the Jeep plant in Toledo — are in danger in order to win an election comes across to many as the type of fear-mongering that no one wants in a president.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-lies-auto-chrysler-jobs-2012-10#ixzz2AkjMKTDm

Cheers to Katybug - YOU ROCK!!

Jeers to the teabilly circular firing squad;
'hotel' - 'tyranny' - 'smart' - 'patriot' - 'bost -

-- READY -- FIRE -- AIM.....

jane play nice. vp loved the wc fields thing. this was a really good round table until mr. (wc fields) bost got involved. then i got queezy.

Glad to see you all survived SANDY. I shut down and "prepared" with candles and a glass of wine. Stayed up all night listening to the steady sound of my sump pump.

N.Y. really got hit hard. Sure makes us all look fragile against Mother Nature.

So who knows how this election will turn out. As great as some of these entries are (esp. Jane8 & Katybug) I see no one has changed their opinions. I think election night will be almost as scary as this Super Storm.

Right you are! They all have generic letters/emails ready to send off - just fill in YOUR name. And they are all the same. As we know, the system if flawed.

Everywhere you turn,someone wants to put their hand in your pocket. Give, give, give! I'll GIVE my vote to whomever I chose and use my money for more important things.

We the people have few if any choices, but I don't believe in dropping out of the game.

Trending today..."Romney impedes Red Cross" *google it*

In yet another effort to politicize unfolding events Willard is now beginning to face backlash once again.

Not only does he lie, but he hasn't a clue about the common people.

Here's a good read that includes information Katy is talking about as well as other blunders he made this week.


here, here!! You said it all and you said it right. From reading some of the "pro" Obama comments I can tell that they are just repeating what they hear from the liberal media. I wish they would stop drinking the kool-aid and do some real research themselves.


You are blind to the facts Sir, If that ignorant self-serving SOB Tricky Mitt gets elected this country of ours will be screwed and all you Repubs will be blaming the 47% I bet.

Ah, using the deaths from a religious cult to press a point. Love when Conservatives remind us as another poster likes to say religion really can poison.

So, how many of these conspiracy theorists were actually there in person to see who the President's father was? Were you there?, witness the action? Does your sheep handlers have a magic time machine to go back and witness the act themselves? All this personal history so readily made up there must surely be magical time travel involved.

"Jane, why not crucify the Obama cabinet"

Hotel, A N Y O N E, regardless of party affiliation, who breaks the law should pay the price. Personally, I believe we have reached the stage were every candidate running for office should have to wear a 'truth collar' and every time they lie to the American public, it would choke them a little. If such an item were made available, Romney would have choked to death by now.

FYI, I have posted Obama's promises--met and not met--on one of these threads in the recent past; too bad you missed it. I have also posted the comparison of Obama's vs Romney's accountability with regard to truthfulness as determined by PolitiFact; evidently, you did not see that either.

I am very aware that NO politician is completely truthful all of the time; however, Romney has brought the art of lying to a level one only sees with dictatorships. I encourage you to actually study some of the utubes on the web which address his comments, but I realize you won't. Another fact that I have observed in watching him is the way he goes after and confronts those who disagree with what he says. It was noted that he perspired profusely during the debates--nervous? Because of his lying? Can YOU give me some examples of his straight forwardness? I would welcome reviewing them. Our country is at stake!

jane play nice''''

Thank you, jdj, for the advice. Why? I call it as I see it!

When people post disinformation, it needs correcting. I invited you to show the reading audience all of my postings that are not truth.

OCM, Are you serious?

Okay. Tell me what is the truth in his post. BE HONEST.

Fact check...Fact check...Fact check. Line by line - let's us examine truths.

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie praising President Obama's response to Hurricane Sandy:

"The federal government's response has been great. I was on the phone at midnight again last night with the President, personally, he has expedited the designation of New Jersey as a major disaster area ... The President has been outstanding in this and so have the folks at FEMA."

“I spoke to the president three times yesterday,” he explained. “He called me for the last time at midnight last night asking what he could do. I said, if you can expedite designating New Jersey as a major disaster area that that would help us to get federal money and resources in here as quickly as possible to help clean up the damage here.”

“The president was great last night,” Christie continued. “He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He’s been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He’s done — as far as I’m concerned — a great job for New Jersey.”

“I have a job to do,” he (Christie) added. “I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power, I’ve got devastation on the shore, I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.”


Cheers to Obama for quick response. Cheers to Christie for giving credit when credit is due.

News alert. Romney now supports FEMA. Previously he want to $&%# can it.

valley patriot | October 31, 2012 8:59 AM

I'll be damned!!!!!!

Ronbo44 - I wish someone, anyone, could name one-- just one-- topic that Romney has not reversed his position on.

Willard has always believed he is better than everyone else and not subject to the rules everyone else lives by....

That count? lol

Katybug, et al -

This tape is about an hour long BUT it is VERY informative. If you have the time, I highly recommend.

VP - I would LOVE to read your comments re this if you could find the time.


I watched and then went for the wiki on the Book of Abraham as well. To be perfectly honest its not something I had ever actually delved into very far as the way I was raised it was never recognized as a true religion. In "my" opinion, I still don't see it as true especially after watching that and reading up on it some.

But that is just my opinion. I still don't fault anyone their beliefs as long as they aren't trying to impose them upon me.

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